"Ancient Gear" [DISC]

[Dr. Cakey]

ancient gears are mediocre at best. you do fail.

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

 

lol@Tronta w/ no card skills. You seem to not realize you are talking to THE master of flip trolls and mill decks.

 

Ancient Gears have AGGD and Geartown' date=' and to a lesser extent UAGG. All other Ancient Gears either can't be Special Summoned or are weak (or are AGK, whose Gemini-ness limits it). In the time it takes you to summon 1 Ancient Gear Golem, I've Bottomless'd it, Torrential'd it, hit it with Smashing Ground, and Tidal Energy'd it with Junk Destroyer (wait...that's not out yet, so scratch the last one). Or, I (well, not me, but someone who uses Infernities) has removed it with Trishula twice and bounced it with Mist Wurm, and...killed it with Infernity [s']Doom[/s] Death Dragon for teh lulz.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Okay i run an Ancient Gear Deck and my fav. 1 is Ancient Gear Engineer

Tbh i think its broken...why well lets see aside from the fact that it has the Norm "Ancient Gear" Effect I.E.:If this card attacks' date=' your opponent cannot activate any Spell or Trap Cards until the end of the Damage Step.

it also kills any trap that targets it and destroys a Spell or Trap card after it attacks

but hey thats just me

so lets DISC. this card and Ancient Gears in general

[/quote']

 

How can you stand failing this hard?

if you think its fail to be able to play and win with A.Gear's competevely then i gess i fail ^^

 

Hahaha... make your ancient gear deck on yugiohnetwork. I'll face you and prove they suck.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

ancient gears are mediocre at best. you do fail.

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

 

lol@Tronta w/ no card skills. You seem to not realize you are talking to THE master of flip trolls and mill decks.

 

Ancient Gears have AGGD and Geartown' date=' and to a lesser extent UAGG. All other Ancient Gears either can't be Special Summoned or are weak (or are AGK, whose Gemini-ness limits it). In the time it takes you to summon 1 Ancient Gear Golem, I've Bottomless'd it, Torrential'd it, hit it with Smashing Ground, and Tidal Energy'd it with Junk Destroyer (wait...that's not out yet, so scratch the last one). Or, I (well, not me, but someone who uses Infernities) has removed it with Trishula twice and bounced it with Mist Wurm, and...killed it with Infernity [s']Doom[/s] Death Dragon for teh lulz.

why do you think AGG so hard to Summon just cause its Limited to Normal Summon. Fast Normal Summoning is not that hard to do. Just got to be a little creative. Though i admit running and Deck that can only Normal Summon monsters would be suicide. Unless you can speed it up. Its kinda of a reason i made my "Malicious Leveler"s which rely on Normal Summoning. Anyways All i'm saying is don't down play a Arch-Type cause you never know what a person can turn it into

[Tronta]

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

[Toffee.]

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

GTFO.

 

Theres more to that' date=' then you think.

You have to be able to build a deck using theme [X'], and then give it some sort of fighting power to where you can at least live past turn 5 agenst other higher-ranked decks.

....For me, Infernitys arent a problem, as Wc10 only has the first 4 of them. but thats beside the point.

 

Take Cloudians for example. They seem a bit slow, and take a bit of effort. But they are AMAZING at field control. They can run a total of 6 copies of Creature Swap, and also leave the opponent with an attack position Cloudian monster, which results in them having a 'breach' in there defences. Or so to say. Cloudians also make for a nice Plasma deck aswell, but thats just me.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

what Seems garbage to you' date=' can be great for others

 

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

GTFO.

 

Theres more to that' date=' then you think.

You have to be able to build a deck using theme [X'], and then give it some sort of fighting power to where you can at least live past turn 5 agenst other higher-ranked decks.

....For me, Infernitys arent a problem, as Wc10 only has the first 4 of them. but thats beside the point.

 

Take Cloudians for example. They seem a bit slow, and take a bit of effort. But they are AMAZING at field control. They can run a total of 6 copies of Creature Swap, and also leave the opponent with an attack position Cloudian monster, which results in them having a 'breach' in there defences. Or so to say. Cloudians also make for a nice Plasma deck aswell, but thats just me.

i'm more then skilled to know how to make a decent deck but thanks for the seme decent feed back. would be decent if you didn't put GTFO

Lolz i'm just glad i'm not a noob and got pissed at everything you guys said

[Toffee.]

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

what Seems garbage to you' date=' can be great for others

 

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

GTFO.

 

Theres more to that' date=' then you think.

You have to be able to build a deck using theme [X'], and then give it some sort of fighting power to where you can at least live past turn 5 agenst other higher-ranked decks.

....For me, Infernitys arent a problem, as Wc10 only has the first 4 of them. but thats beside the point.

 

Take Cloudians for example. They seem a bit slow, and take a bit of effort. But they are AMAZING at field control. They can run a total of 6 copies of Creature Swap, and also leave the opponent with an attack position Cloudian monster, which results in them having a 'breach' in there defences. Or so to say. Cloudians also make for a nice Plasma deck aswell, but thats just me.

i'm more then skilled to know how to make a decent deck but thanks for the seme decent feed back. would be decent if you didn't put GTFO

Lolz i'm just glad i'm not a noob and got pissed at everything you guys said

 

I usually use "GTFO" when I find some post that doesnt make much sence. Ehh...

But still, I like to add a bit of creativity to decks that I make, as it usually helps me figure out how to work them in different ways. Different ways that hopefully get me to make more consistant versions of them.

Like some sort of trial-and-error sort of gimmic.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

what Seems garbage to you' date=' can be great for others

 

*Shakes Head*

then you have no card skills if you can't turn them into something great

GTFO.

 

Theres more to that' date=' then you think.

You have to be able to build a deck using theme [X'], and then give it some sort of fighting power to where you can at least live past turn 5 agenst other higher-ranked decks.

....For me, Infernitys arent a problem, as Wc10 only has the first 4 of them. but thats beside the point.

 

Take Cloudians for example. They seem a bit slow, and take a bit of effort. But they are AMAZING at field control. They can run a total of 6 copies of Creature Swap, and also leave the opponent with an attack position Cloudian monster, which results in them having a 'breach' in there defences. Or so to say. Cloudians also make for a nice Plasma deck aswell, but thats just me.

i'm more then skilled to know how to make a decent deck but thanks for the seme decent feed back. would be decent if you didn't put GTFO

Lolz i'm just glad i'm not a noob and got pissed at everything you guys said

 

I usually use "GTFO" when I find some post that doesnt make much sence. Ehh...

But still, I like to add a bit of creativity to decks that I make, as it usually helps me figure out how to work them in different ways. Different ways that hopefully get me to make more consistant versions of them.

Like some sort of trial-and-error sort of gimmic.

i'm a bit the same, i don't use any meta-game decks and prefer burn and wall based stuff.

tend to try out combos as a whole take "Gravity Axe" & "Stumbling" both are okay cards but when used together you get a lock on your opponents monsters in many ways much better then "Level Limit Area B"

[GenzoTheHarpist]

I'm waiting to face you, boy. Let's see how "great" your gears are.

[Tronta]

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

what Seems garbage to you' date=' can be great for others[/quote']

 

this isn't how card games work. cards aren't somehow magically good in one person's hands and garbage in another's. there is some level of skill involved in playing a deck, and definitely strategy, but an archetype's worth wont increase or decrease without the addition/removal of cards to them that would alter the gameplay dynamic of said archetype. see demisetown, or just the tech that gets throw into lightsworns. synchro cat. etc.

 

to my knowledge, and my knowledge is pretty extensive, there is no new mechanic for ancient gears that make them any good. geartown+dragon is still decent, hell you could even truck out a powerbond+ultigolem fusion deck, but aside from these isolated strategies and semi-useful cards, the ancient gear archetype is still sheet.

 

you haven't seemed to get that yet, so let me tell you why it's sheet. gears. are. funking. slow.

not only do they rely on normal summoning, which is a once per turn deal, they have little to nothing in the way of searchers or draw engines, thus making it damn near impossible to replenish advantage. gadgets exist for them, and tradein is viable (although a sunken golem can only be reused by reincarnation (a -1 and a bad card), overload fusion (a +0 that you would probably only run one of), or pot of avarice (admittedly a +1 and a good card, but deck fattening isn't generally good)).

 

the fact of the matter is, you'd have to run them heavy anti-meta to compensate for lack of speed and field presence, and when you're running them that anti-meta, you may as well be running good cards.

 

actually, if you want, i can take an attempt at building these such that they wont suck horribly.

 

anti-meta seems the only way to go with it, though. (oh lols, the introduction of new cards to the deck to change the dynamic). and anti-meta decks are A. not fun and B. meh.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

I'm waiting to face you' date=' boy. Let's see how "great" your gears are.

[/quote']

face me were, through typeing, if thats the case no thank you cause i don't trust anyone in that kinda dualing

 

 

why turn garbage into something playable when you can turn something playable into something great?

what Seems garbage to you' date=' can be great for others[/quote']

 

this isn't how card games work. cards aren't somehow magically good in one person's hands and garbage in another's. there is some level of skill involved in playing a deck, and definitely strategy, but an archetype's worth wont increase or decrease without the addition/removal of cards to them that would alter the gameplay dynamic of said archetype. see demisetown, or just the tech that gets throw into lightsworns. synchro cat. etc.

 

to my knowledge, and my knowledge is pretty extensive, there is no new mechanic for ancient gears that make them any good. geartown+dragon is still decent, hell you could even truck out a powerbond+ultigolem fusion deck, but aside from these isolated strategies and semi-useful cards, the ancient gear archetype is still s***.

 

you haven't seemed to get that yet, so let me tell you why it's s***. gears. are. f***ing. slow.

not only do they rely on normal summoning, which is a once per turn deal, they have little to nothing in the way of searchers or draw engines, thus making it damn near impossible to replenish advantage. gadgets exist for them, and tradein is viable (although a sunken golem can only be reused by reincarnation (a -1 and a bad card), overload fusion (a +0 that you would probably only run one of), or pot of avarice (admittedly a +1 and a good card, but deck fattening isn't generally good)).

 

the fact of the matter is, you'd have to run them heavy anti-meta to compensate for lack of speed and field presence, and when you're running them that anti-meta, you may as well be running good cards.

 

actually, if you want, i can take an attempt at building these such that they wont suck horribly.

 

anti-meta seems the only way to go with it, though. (oh lols, the introduction of new cards to the deck to change the dynamic). and anti-meta decks are A. not fun and B. meh.

well i do run anti-mete and i don't know but there is Double Summon

[Toffee.]

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

lolz

[Headmaster Monokuma]

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

lolz

 

Do you have Yugioh Network? My deck could use a little... work, and you sound confident in Ancient Gears.

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

lolz

 

Do you have Yugioh Network? My deck could use a little... work' date=' and you sound confident in Ancient Gears.

[/quote']

no i don't have yugiohnetwork. how do i get it?

[Headmaster Monokuma]

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

lolz

 

Do you have Yugioh Network? My deck could use a little... work' date=' and you sound confident in Ancient Gears.

[/quote']

no i don't have yugiohnetwork. how do i get it?

 

Just follow the link I provide and set up an account.

 

http://www.yugiohnetwork.com/default.aspx

[Guest Dark-Azkrin666]

c

Double Summon

Dont run Double Summon. Just dont.

lolz

 

Do you have Yugioh Network? My deck could use a little... work' date=' and you sound confident in Ancient Gears.

[/quote']

no i don't have yugiohnetwork. how do i get it?

 

Just follow the link I provide and set up an account.

 

http://www.yugiohnetwork.com/default.aspx

 

can it wait till tomorrow?

[metalflygon08]

Whoops the gadgets are from my old buid using Drill instead of Sarcoughfogus.

[Tronta]

/cracks his knuckles

 

alright, let me try!

 

 

2 golem

2 dragon

6 gadgets

2 beast

3 knight

2 cydra

2 scrap recycler

2 machina fortress

21

 

2 geartown

1 terra

1 future fusion

1 overload

3 smashing ground

1 heavy

1 bcon

1 mst

1 poa

1 limiter

2 hand destruction

15

 

2 oppression

2 bottomless

1 starlight

5

 

41

 

 

honestly, the more i run the numbers, the more i'm thinking i should be dropping golem, beast and knight in favor of another fortress and a gearframe. and eventually it just becomes machina. this deck theoretically works a lot better with scrap recycler. i just wish i had room for that continuous spell, a couple rykos, and maybe some other sheet.

[Archlord Kristya]

/cracks his knuckles

 

alright' date=' let me try!

 

 

2 golem

2 dragon

6 gadgets

2 beast

3 knight

2 cydra

2 scrap recycler

2 machina fortress

21

 

2 geartown

1 terra

1 future fusion

1 overload

3 smashing ground

1 heavy

1 bcon

1 mst

1 poa

1 limiter

2 hand destruction

15

 

2 oppression

2 bottomless

1 starlight

5

 

41

 

 

honestly, the more i run the numbers, the more i'm thinking i should be dropping golem, beast and knight in favor of another fortress and a gearframe. and eventually it just becomes machina. this deck theoretically works a lot better with scrap recycler. i just wish i had room for that continuous spell, a couple rykos, and maybe some other s***.

[/quote']

 

-2 Ancient Gear Golem

-1 Terraforming

-1 Ancient Gear Knight

-2 Ancient Gear Beast

 

+1 Machina Fortress

+1 Ancient Gear Gadgiltron Dragon

+1 Gear Town

+2 Magical Hats

But that's just my suggestion.

[Tronta]

^^THATS THE STUPID PART

the deck runs BETTER without ancient gears.

honestly those suggestions are easily improvements, but i was trying to run the stupid things.

[-Griffin]

I think that a Geartown Deck which had it on the field consistently might be able to justify an Ancient Gear Beast, or at least side it against Xabers to stop Emmersblade and Darksoul but other than that, I agree that only Dragon is really runnable.

[metalflygon08]

what I like about beast is that it also stops searchers, if Necro Gardna is killed by beast can it activate it's effect later?

[Tronta]

i dont think so, no. but then i would need to reread it. and i'm lazy.