BehindTheMask Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Taken from Yugiohetc: When you start a game of Yu-Gi-Oh!' date=' do you feel like you're playing a six card hand or a forty card deck? Think about it before answering. [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Six Card Hand Why? Because if you dont have the right setup on the first turn, your finished. If Yu-Gi-Oh had Mulligan it would be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 The first six cards virtually makes game, like Azuh said. Only half of the cards are used at its most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 I'd have to say the hand. The whole game is really determined by that. You can have a horrible deck and still pull a lucky first hand and win (albiet its less likely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 A 6 card hand and few top cards. Sure, the other ~30 could do something in the duel, Alius searched by Stratos, ect, but which ones I can get and how I can use them is determined by those cards I draw. The drawn cards and starting hand are definitely what's going to decide the winner/loser, the rest are just targets for some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Six Card Hand Why? Because if you dont have the right setup on the first turn' date=' your finished. If Yu-Gi-Oh had Mulligan it would be different[/quote'] If Yugioh had mulligan, It would come to "He whom goes first is the victor". I feel as if I am playing a forty card deck. If I get a shitty hand then I can still have options most of time like draw power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Decks that revolve around skill and knowledge of each card in your deck obviously makes you feel like your running 40x cards. I find this occurs in Quickdraw Plants. Usually though, OTK's are around 3-5 Cards and if you get them right off the bat, who needs 35-37 more cards? tl;dr version: Depends on the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 actually, i feel as though i'm playing against my deck. but i think my deck is a special case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 mmmm In my case I might say both....When I draw my first 5 cards, I visualize the second turn of the duel...so I can think about how my pulls are need to come for me. Drawing the sixth card determine whether I'll need to think about the remaining 34 cards or just plan that turn with what I got...If I can't pull the win with the 6 cards opening hand....I start planning turn 3 onwards trying to hypothesize my next pulls needed for the win... When Luck doesn't go with me...I'll proceed to restart the method with the remaining resources I got... XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 I think I'm playing with a 6-card hand and the top 6 cards of a 34-card deck. Sometimes, it IS simply a 40-card deck and I simply have to fetch things out, which I do en masse - but that assumes that my hand is at all decent. Interesting... This question could only apply to YGO out of the 3 major cards games (It couldn't even apply to PKMN or MtG, where you can quickly fetch out whatever you need whenever you need it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 I think it is the hand that matters the most. Sure you can search your deck and add cards to your hand, field and graveyard, but if you don't draw the right hand, you lose. It is like you draw a good hand and your opponent draws a better hand. Your Deck is better set-up than your opponent's, but your opponent beats you because he/she drew a better hand than you did. This is why I consider all card games to be a combination of Luck and Skill (more reliant on luck more than skill however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 40 card Deck. I hate when people give up just because of a bad first hand, god like at least try to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted July 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 I think you play a 40 card deck against your opponent. The reason why is that every card should be considered when making a move. Your future plays, your opponent's outs, etc. I've seen many people make terrible moves that panned out bad because they didn't realize that by doing a certain play, they leave themselves open to a huge play. You have to consider each and every scenario. Although your first 6 cards are important, it will not do much if you can't use each possible draw/scenario to further put you in a game winning position. Out Limitation and Board Position are often ignored in the meta because its all "OTK or get OTK'd." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 The reason why is that every card should be considered when making a move. Your future plays' date=' your opponent's outs, etc.[/quote'] Unless you know your opponent's deck through and through, you can't really plan out your opponent's future moves. Unless you're purposely stacking your deck, you can't plan your own future plays. I've seen many people make terrible moves that panned out bad because they didn't realize that by doing a certain play' date=' they leave themselves open to a huge play.[/quote'] I've seen much more often the exact opposite occur. Many duelists would wait out for "the one card" or not risk having Heavy Storm be a 1-for-1 and over think and over complicate and crunch numbers and w/e only to bow out when a super broken card hit the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted July 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Unless you know your opponent's deck through and through' date=' you can't really plan out your opponent's future moves. Unless you're purposely stacking your deck, you can't plan your own future plays. I've seen much more often the exact opposite occur. Many duelists would wait out for "the one card" or not risk having Heavy Storm be a 1-for-1 and over think and over complicate and crunch numbers and w/e only to bow out when a super broken card hit the field.[/quote'] 1) If your opponent is playing any type of known deck, you can obviously infer what card choices they are going to make. The only thing that should surprise you is their tech. 2) You can also thing about what would be the best logical play, by basing it off of what play will further strengthen your position and give you the opportunity to have the greatest amounts of outs. 3) I have too, but in all fairness, people who are too tunnel-visioned as to play a hand a certain way deserve to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Decks that revolve around skill and knowledge of each card in your deck obviously makes you feel like your running 40x cards. I find this occurs in Quickdraw Plants. Usually though' date=' OTK's are around 3-5 Cards and if you get them right off the bat, who needs 35-37 more cards? tl;dr version: Depends on the deck.[/quote'] I play a variant of Quickdraw plants, too, so I see where your coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 40 card Deck. because i have the reaper on my side and i use it's power to draw any card i want!!!!! but sersiously, it all matters on your first hand. if it doesnt set your field up/disrupt your opponent, the game won't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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