.Gideon. Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 ok so we are having a discussion about Dark hole, my friend says it is GOOD AT 1 because it's easy to counter, we have stardust, starlight road, and because it nukes both player's monsters so it's ok .. <(lol) DISCUSS HOW WRONG HIS LOGIC IS -__- also discuss dark hole and how will it ruin the game if it went to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Konami: Its fine if we put it @1. It just means White Hole will be used more. But seriously, no. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis2 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Dark Hole destroys facedown monsters. It will hurt players that is trying to defend themselves with facedown monsters. My Swarm of Scarabs/Locusts won't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should stay at 0. It is skilless, costless and splashable mass Monster removal. Besides, we already have balanced splashable mass Monster removal so I don't think we need this to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Costless, restrictionless field nuking. Very broken. Doesn't require you to lose anything, doesn't have a cost, doesn't prevent you from summoning or atacking, doesn't limit its use in any way, and disturbingly splashable...it's broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 yeah yeah yeah I keep telling him that but he's still saying its ok at 1.. -.- he saw the thread and said they don't have a strong point ! lolproblem is he is a pro -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 yeah yeah yeah I keep telling him that but he's still saying its ok at 1.. -.- he saw the thread and said they don't have a strong point ! lolproblem is he is a pro -_- He sounds more like an idiot. The fact Dark Hole is counterable by crap like Stardust Dragon and Starlight Road don't change its effect. Hence why counterability =/= balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalflygon08 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Derp Let's put Rageki at 1 I have friends who think, since DH and HS are brothers, they both should be at the same #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 They should make a remake, with a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 They should make a remake, with a cost. Aren't these enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I sit corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 It's really good where it is!I don't wanna see a costless mass removal card in everyone's deck :@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 It's been banned for a reason. A very good reason. I'm sure the last time it was unbanned, it wreaked havoc and the last thing we need is to have the card wreak havoc with all these swarm decks. OTKs will be simpler than ever before. There is nothing balanced about this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Derp Let's put Rageki at 1No kidding Raigeki is Broken as is this. I meen at first i thought torrential was worse than this. Then i lookedd closer. This shizzle is broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 lmao Dark Hole at 1 is so broken.Not everyone has a Starlight Road out first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 lmao Dark Hole at 1 is so broken.Not everyone has a Starlight Road out first turn. Not everyone runs Starlight either x D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Not everyone runs Starlight either x D i kno rite?haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should be @2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should be @2 Semi-Limit Dark Hole? Not sure if serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should definitely be @2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Yeah, should be at 2. OT: Sets up too many OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I'd use it repeatedly on Infernities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 @TC: you think thats bad? I had run into this guy who ran 2 copies of Raigeki, and yet, claims Lightning Vortex is B& because "Yugi said it was in the anime".......I really had no way to counter how stupid that was. On-Topic:Dark Hole and Card Trooper should be@2 my deck is immune to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Putting dark hole at 1 in a great idea. Swarm decks like Saber's, LS, and Infernities need a way to clear the opponents field faster, cause OTK's are good for the game. Putting it at one would totaly make this game better. Hell while were at it, lets unban Change of Heart and Rageki to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should definitely be @2. You'd best be trolling. This card is banned for a reason. We have TT and LV for mass monster destruction, we don't need yet more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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