Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 [quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282622015' post='4559497'] But think if you actually used all those cards and you didnt draw sinister. Thats a deck with holes. [/quote] Not relevant. That's the luck of the draw. [quote name='poopybuttoxes' timestamp='1282622015' post='4559497'] I agree with what you're saying, but why not think in "the meta"? Thats what you would be in, and one persons meta isnt another persons meta. People should stop using meta like that. Metagame is what people use around you, like at your hobby shop or city/state. If you're thinking about nationally or internationally then you can talk about the game generally. [/quote] Regardless of the Meta, the Effect of a card is still the same and as a result, regardless of the Meta, a banworthy card is still banworthy. Anyone that thinks recurring discard fodder like Sinister Serpent isn't bad for the game really needs to stop sucking at the game. Cards with discard costs in most cases have them for a good reason. Refer to Lightning Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1282644860' post='4560275'] Pot of Greed would not change anything at 1. [/quote] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Try this game. It is very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Incognito:. Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I just don't understand why this is so overpowered... In my opinion volcanic shell is better. But then again I AM a n00b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Both are good Both are bannable. Both serve two different purposes. One as infinite [b]Tribute[/b] fodder One as infinite [b]Discard [/b]fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 itt: infinite discard fodder > infinite tribute fodder le idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 well yeah but not all the time. sometimes i'd rather have the tribute fodder. thus, you can't really compare the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 BTW poopy, Sinister is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 [quote name='THe ReBeL' timestamp='1282626056' post='4559697'] If there was no bann list yugioh would be great. [/quote] LOL OT:Sinister is broken. But Konami can make it unbroken by removing discard costs from all cards requiring them, thus making half the cards in the game bannable. It's broken. Get over it, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1282629681' post='4559881'] Raigeki should be legal. It's almost useless for anything else besides killing all monsters your opponent controls. [/quote] OH MY GOD ITS CRAB HELMET! I havent seen you on here since before I quit YGO for a year and 3 months! OT: Sinister Serpent is, as said throughout the entire topic, infinite discard fodder which allows you to play anything that needs a discard effect. From the well known cards such as Lightning Vortex, Pheonix Wing Wind Blast, Dark World Dealings, Hand Destructions, this helps less playable cards to be stronger if they are played, such as making Armed Dragon Lv 10 a costless Raigeki, along with making the already great Brionic, Dragon of the Ice Barrier a free bounce as well as the much less played and far inferior Abyss Warrior. In addition to these examples Drill Warrior also comes to mind being even better than ever now having a costless RFP then coming back and taking anything back to hang along with the serpent you discarded through serpents own effect. Banned for good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 ban treeborn limit serpent do eeeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 [quote name='THe ReBeL' timestamp='1282626056' post='4559697'] lol sinster can be sided but no one will until everyone does. If there was no bann list yugioh would be great. [/quote] Oh yes, because its takes skill to flip a coin. [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1282644860' post='4560275'] Pot of Greed would not change anything at 1. [/quote] Derp, Dark Hole and Monster Reborn@1 doesnt change anything (...owait) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Spontaneous no cost +1, should stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 [quote name='TheTurtleOnceCalledGod' timestamp='1282785012' post='4566154'] Spontaneous no cost +1, should stay banned. [/quote] Treeborn Frog Spontaneous no cost +1 [b]tribute fodder[/b], should be banned. Which is worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 let's see what happens when it's at 1. They did it with dark hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 [quote name='Byakk' timestamp='1282785546' post='4566193'] Treeborn Frog Spontaneous no cost +1 [b]tribute fodder[/b], should be banned. Which is worse? [/quote] A card being worse than another doesn't necessarily mean it isn't banworthy. Both serve different purposes. Both should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dries965 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 It is to strong then, and is to strong nowadays, there are enough options for this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 [quote name='Darkest Hour' timestamp='1282795268' post='4566605'] let's see what happens when it's at 1. They did it with dark hole. [/quote] Dark Hole was simply a better card to keep than Heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 [quote name='Byakk' timestamp='1282830286' post='4567406'] Dark Hole was simply a better card to keep than Heavy. [/quote] That is debatable. Let's just wait and see what glads will do, before we make a final judgment. Summon Laquari, set 4, might be pretty bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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