[DISC]Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

[Tickle Me Emo]

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Discuss why this is banned.

[Lonk]

Easy to summon, and gives you a choice of rfping any monster on the field or attacking twice in the same battle phase.

[evilfusion]

-Laughably easy to summon, has 3000 ATK.

-For the "large" cost of not attacking that turn, it can remove one monster from play. Faceup or facedown, yours or your opponent's.

OR

-If it kills a monster, it transforms into a double attacker, and unlike Tyrant Dragon or Chimeratech, it doesn't need a monster out. Many times, it will kill something in battle and then attack directly. And with 3000 ATK, it'll be killing a lot of things in battle.

[.Gideon.]

Because he is SO smexy

[Darkest Hour]

In Traditional, Honest insures an instant kill with this card.

[Expelsword]

[quote name='Darkest Hour' timestamp='1282919211' post='4570892']
In Traditional, Honest insures an instant kill with this card.
[/quote]

If you attack something with 2000 ATK
Boost to 5000
-3000
Attack for 5000 - Lp --> 0

[Canadian]

I love how Black Luster Soldier becomes an effect monster - gets banned.
Dark Magician of Chaos becomes an effect monster - gets banned.

I'm scarred to imagine all the other ones like BEWD and Dark Magician lol.

But yeah, we have chaos sorcerer and that alone shows how annoying of a card it can be let alone this guys extra ATK and FX.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

This is and always has been broken. It is a splashable and easy to summon beatstick with 3000 ATK that can ram through 2 monsters a turn in battle or run over 1 and attack for 3000 damage or remove from play whatever it can't kill in battle.

[Welche the crab]

My guess? They didn't like they way his name looked so thy banned him.

[El-Rrey]

Broken! It's good at 0.

[Catterjune]

[quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1282919935' post='4570927']
I'm scarred to imagine all the other ones like BEWD and Dark Magician lol.[/quote]
Sin BEWD?

That being said, it's pretty damn obvious why this got banned, and so confusing as to why Chaos Sorceror got unbanned.

[Toffee.]

Konami, can we [i]please[/i] have another stupid format?
Monster Reborn, Call of the Haunted, and Dark Hole to 0
This to 2

[-Berserker-]

Release this in the next Duelist Pack Collection Tin, along with CED. With 1 pack of Yugi, 1 of Kaiba and 1 of Joey or Marik, whichever they decide to do first (I would love Duelist Pack Rafael, but I don't think they'll do it until they are out of ideas...)

[Expelsword]

[quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1282935683' post='4571661']
Release this in the next Duelist Pack Collection Tin, along with CED. With 1 pack of Yugi, 1 of Kaiba and 1 of Joey or Marik, whichever they decide to do first (I would love Duelist Pack Rafael, but I don't think they'll do it until they are out of ideas...)
[/quote]


I want Duelist Pack: Dartz

although Shunoros would need one heck of an errata

[Catterjune]

[quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1282943461' post='4572019']
I want Duelist Pack: Dartz

although Shunoros would need one heck of an errata
[/quote]

Card already exists.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Orichalcos_Shunoros

[Expelsword]

[quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1282944576' post='4572096']
Card already exists.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Orichalcos_Shunoros
[/quote]

[b]although Shunoros would need one heck of an errata[/b]

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Easy to summon and a 1 card OTK.

STAY BANNED DAMMIT!

[Yankee]

But guiz, u can use sakuritsu armar un et and kill et!

[Darkest Hour]

i fear the format that becomes so absurdly stupid that having this at 1 wouldn't make a difference.

[BDKMRV]

Cause it has the same ATK and DEF points of Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

I think this card is more banned due to http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Primal_Seed than due to its already broken summonability and effect.
Great card that should never leave the forbidden section.

[Darkest Hour]

primal seed wouldn't make this combo worse.

[BehindTheMask]

Because when you win with it, it wears your opponent's colon as an ankle band.

Ontopic: @1 plox.

[Darkest Hour]

I want this card to come back. I don't care if it makes the game "imbalanced" because the people who say it is will probably be running it anyways and getting them to win.

[evilfusion]

Sometimes I think the logic for unbanning cards is "I wonder what'll happen..." and then it turns out the card doesn't wreak as much havoc as expected and they just leave it that way. Chaos Sorcerer, for example. But compared to this, Chaos Sorcerer isn't a huge issue. It can't hit facedown monsters like this can, has 700 less attack for the same summon condition, and doesn't have the double attack effect.

IOC- the pack that taught us all that cards CAN be made too powerful to exist in the game. The Chaos monsters were a mistake, an example of flawed design.

People who recognize that the card makes the game imbalanced aren't being hypocrites by using the card. They're just not being so stupid as to pass over such a powerful card and give themselves a crippling disadvantage since everyone ELSE will be running it.