http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Gadget

[Catterjune]

And, presumably, the rest of the Gadgets.

They're decent cards and a rather good deck type, searching for each other and pulling of a strict + 1, but would someone go as far as to suggest they be limited or banned? After all, they're pure advantage when summoned. A deck of 3x Gadgets and Some high numberx Monster Destruction has little to fear.

So, denizens of lolYCM, I throw the question over to you. Do the Gadgets deserve to be banned or limited?

[Darkest Hour]

Advantage to do what? They are one card, that gets another card, that gets another card. It doesn't search out anything game winning, even though you ARE getting one monster per turn no matter what that can be discarded for Tragoedia, Lightning Vortex and whatnot.

They don't fare very well in battle, so it's not like a flood of volatile beatsticks.

[Canadian]

Agreed with Darkest Hour. They are good deck thinners, but so is Thunder Dragon (Inorite). Besides, weak ATK/DEF sort of balances out the 31 deck size in my opinion. Keep them @3.

[Expelsword]

They should all be @2 just because

inb4Redis3xfaster

[Just Crouton]

Machina Gadgets.

Their low ATK makes them a little broken, since they get around Bottomless while thinning your deck, increasing field presence, and making Fortress food. Also, they're Limiter Removal and Giant Rat targets. Machina Armored Unit is epic with these.

At least semi'd to keep them playable, but even if banned, I've already posted Machina decks that run a Quickdraw Explorer engine, and another for Salvo.

[CrabHelmet]

Wait, YCM thinks the main advantage Gadgets provide is deckthin? Even though Gadget decks traditionally run over 40 cards to reduce the incidence of drawing multiple Gadgets?

YCM-kun, you never cease to amaze me.

[Just Crouton]

[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1284428125' post='4625512']
Wait, YCM thinks the main advantage Gadgets provide is deckthin? Even though Gadget decks traditionally run over 40 cards to reduce the incidence of drawing multiple Gadgets?

YCM-kun, you never cease to amaze me.
[/quote]

I did mention Fortress food and field presence...

[Canadian]

[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1284428125' post='4625512']
Wait, YCM thinks the main advantage Gadgets provide is deckthin? Even though Gadget decks traditionally run over 40 cards to reduce the incidence of drawing multiple Gadgets?

YCM-kun, you never cease to amaze me.
[/quote]

31 cards allows you to run alot more monster destruction cards while maintaining field advantage with +1's each turn. I don't get what else there really is.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

At 3. The fact they're weaker than crap like Stratos and specific in what they search is what balances them.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

semi limitable years ago when the slower meta was defined by these little critters.

now, 3 is where they belong, any less is stupid.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I hate them, but I believe that they're ok at 3. But since lokonami made the mistake of SDMM, they might make them at 2 next format.

[Lonk]

Solidarity can break their attack. They love Ultimate Offering, and Fortress loves them. What else is their to discuss about gadgets?

[Manjoume Thunder]

[quote]Solidarity can break their attack. They love Ultimate Offering, and Fortress loves them. What else is their to discuss about gadgets? [/quote]

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Of interest: one of the only card types that could be legitimately limited/semi-limited, since the advantage of running them is directly proportional to how many you can run, much like Malicious.

[BehindTheMask]

Fine at 3. Although they do +1, its not like they can really put any pressure on the board.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Love the Gadget archetype.

I always get the cards I need for a LV or a Dark Core.

Or the occasional Tricky.

Ether way, I'm happy with these guys.

Too bad I only have 1 of each.

[Azmodius]

They may search something that will gives you an advantage, a free monster. But the advantage is not as over powered as, say stratos = mali + ddraw = 2, +1 monster, and a possible dark armed. They do provide advange, but only deck thining a crappy monster.

[-Berserker-]

[i]Too bad I only have 1 of each.
[/i]

I have 3 of each, except the yellow one. I have no yellow ones, even after buying half a box of Yugi DP...