Suicide.

[.Starrk]

[quote name='Smeargle' timestamp='1285295214' post='4649862']
I've thought about suicide several times.
And I'm 13.
But what keeps me going in my friends and family. <3

lolcheesy.
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I did as well my friend.

[T. Sankara]

[quote name='Yankee' timestamp='1285192743' post='4646429']
No, it's not. I'm not selfish for wanting to end the pain, and the pain and annoyance I cause to other people. Sure, they'll be hurt for a while after, but it'll balance out, and eventually be beneficial to them later if I'm not around. (I literally meaning me.)
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You just contradicted yourself.

[Just Crouton]

My brother used to threaten to kill himself every time my dad yelled at him for failing a semester in college. My brother was full of crap. After he guilted my dad into backing off with the crying of "I WANNA KILL MYSELF!", he tried the suicide card on my other brother in law school. Law School asked him "who's stopping you?" My brother failed another semester, and cried that his inability to study was because of Law School's "who's stopping you?" comment 4-5 months prior. After failing his 3rd and last semester at that college, my dad finally realized it was an empty threat and that he wasted $20,000+ on my brother's failed college adventures to avoid getting a job, and said "CUT THE DRAMA CRAP, DRAMA QUEEN!"

I remember talking about it with either my mom, or my other brother in law school a year or so ago, and I said that "you need ambition to kill yourself." Laughter ensued.

Suicide is a waste, though.

[.Starrk]

[quote name='Mystic Keeper' timestamp='1285297076' post='4649949']
You just contradicted yourself.
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So what If he did? Maybe it would be better.

[Makο]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrbmA-NX7E&feature=player_embedded[/media]
Thats what this thread reminds me of.

[Dark]

[quote name='Coyote Starrk' timestamp='1285352329' post='4650816']
So what If he did? Maybe it would be better.
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If you contradict yourself your argument probably has a really big logical hole in it, or you don't know what you're talking about in general.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

A rational solution to unbearable events turned downed by society as it's largely detrimental to what it has worked to establish.

If I was ever in a situation where suicide was to be considered, I believe I'd turn down the option out of respect to my family and loved ones, but I wouldn't know until I really experienced any suicidal thoughts I guess.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1285257931' post='4647921']
Amazingly good counter for positive people who have said thoughts. Not so much for others...
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Thanks, I guess, but then again, I have a feeling that most people here belong in "others".

[I-dreezyAFG]

most people who had a loved on lost to suicide are selfish (i feel bad saying that though). they wanted that loved one back with them so much, they don't care abut whats gonna happen to them after death. but suicide is a sin, no matter the reasons.
suicide isn't just due to emotional reasons. prescribed drugs with side effects are prime reasons. about half a year ago, i watched on the news some 9 year old hung himself in the school bathroom. it reportd he had no bully problems, but his mom gave him prescribed drugs daily. the same with a father of 2. but suicide is mostly from emotional reasons. they kill themselves because of school, their family, they feel unwanted, or they think its a mistake they came in this world. but my advice is to take the anger out on the person that made you angry wether it be a kid at school, someone in your family, or a bunch of people. if ur weak, bring a weapon or 2, like the classic combo of cologne and lighter. if u fatally injure them or kill them, its better than suicide cause you have the life to repent and forgiveness to god for your sins.

Bottom Line: there may not always be a second option, but suicide doesn't have to be the first

[Cin]

^ You just linked it to something that might not be the case. And I automatically linked your example with Coronation Street.

You need to understand you hit rock bottom, you don't care what happens after you die either to yourself or 'loved' ones, infact you just feel you'd be better off dead and the others would prefer you dead (even that's most likely never the case).

Yes because everytime I feel suicidal I'm gonna take it out on my dad....who actually would make it 100times worse. I already have homicidal thoughts, and actually if I did take it out my dad, I really would end up in prison. Going to prison would just make a suicidal person worse, because now their life is forever screwed up thus making them EVEN MORE likely to attempt it, before hand if they got out of it (if they did) then they would have a normal life, but after prison things might never be the same. (If they get out that is)

[I-dreezyAFG]

coranation street?

for me (in my opinion), suicide is much worse knowing that i'll be more tortured in hell. with all the horrible things there, i'd rather get shot without knowing it than shooting myself. and like i said b4, if u take it out on the person that made you feel this way, [b]you have the life to repent/ask god forgiveness of your sins.[/b]
but hey, if someone really feels they need to end it all, thats their choice. no one's stopping them.

[hexcalibrate]

i plan too commit suicide at the age of 23 out of sheer impatience, the grim reapers too slow, this way i can control the amount of pain i suffer when i do die.

[I-dreezyAFG]

O_O. are you serious?

the grim reaper is waiting for you probably. u can make him come to you by eating candy constantly without any healthiness, try to kill the president, go to iraq, isreal, iran, afghanistan, make fun of a bunch of bluds and crips moms and call them gay (especially when they have guns with them), or get ideas from 1000 ways to die

[Cin]

In Coronation Street one of the character faked pregnancy to get back with someone (she'd already had an abortion), his mum later revealed (she works as a receptionist at a doctors) that there was no baby and she attempted suicide.

What's to say there is heaven or hell? You may just go to nothingness then there is no torture and no 'reason' for someone to stop. I doubt family would offer forgiveness if you killed someone in it. Yes life to repent if you get out of the suicidal thoughts, if not you just feel worse and will then attempt at any cost if you fail.

[hexcalibrate]

i kinda believe that once you die your life continues like it id now but you don't realise your dead, and it goes on with you being the oldest man in your fake reality.

[I-dreezyAFG]

@ yin: im not taking that risk.
@ king of dyspraxia: that would be nice

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='.:HiTMaN:.' timestamp='1285506799' post='4656636']for me (in my opinion), suicide is much worse knowing that i'll be more tortured in hell.[/quote]

I normally hate religion, but just this I simply love of them. It prevents idiots from suicide.

[Outré]

You know what I always think? Theres someone in a worse position than me. Always. You could have a terminal disease, but chances are you don't. Problems are temporary.

[Atomix]

If they want to commit suicide, let them commit suicide.

They should know what they are leaving behind though, family, friends and their future.

[Outré]

[quote name='Atomix' timestamp='1285704643' post='4664295']
If they want to commit suicide, let them commit suicide.

They should know what they are leaving behind though, family, friends and their future.
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I agree with sentence number 2, not so much number 1... why not use that tactic to prevent suicide? Remind them of family and stuff.

[Dark]

You can try any tactic you want, but in the end, if they [i]want [/i]to suicide, you can do nothing to stop them (except restrain them). And frankly, you shouldn't be doing anything to stop them.

[I-dreezyAFG]

the only (last) way to stop them from suicide is to kill them b4 they kill themselves. now u probably think im an idiot. =|

[Dark]

[quote name='.:HiTMaN:.' timestamp='1285717293' post='4665076']
the only (last) way to stop them from suicide is to kill them b4 they kill themselves. now u probably think im an idiot. =|
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As idiotic as that sounds, you are right. If you kill them, they are not commiting suicide. Yet they still got what they wanted, [b]and[/b] you'll go to jail, so that's stupid.

[Nu.]

'Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so."
- Bertrand Russell.

I believe this sums up the thread. ;p
If you have nothing to live for, find something to live for.


[quote name='Coyote Starrk' timestamp='1285211669' post='4647277']
This thread made me sad.
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[.Lost]

[quote name='Doom Marine' timestamp='1285179599' post='4645949']
Suicide should be done the right way. With a live grenade held in your hand. Not that stupid wrist-knife bullshit. Thats for nerds.
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Believe it or not, slitting your wrists while in a bath tub (from what i've heard) is considered a painless death. Plus, as soon as you pull the clip on the grenade, you probably dont have too much time to react without severely dismembering yourself. You have plenty of time considering how fast your blood tries to diffuse through the water.


You can simply argue that suicide is something irrational and at the same time totally rational, it matters more on the god damn circumstances.
Alright, first, lets take a quick look at the word.

su·i·cide   
[soo-uh-sahyd]

'the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally especially by a person of years of discretion and of sound mind"

Alright. So if you fell off a cliff and died from the fall, it's considered suicide.
Also, if you stabbed yourself, it's considered suicide.

So literally, the definition of suicide is "death without the help of another" (aka shooting/stabbing/accident/etc), or at least thats what im guessing.

Suicide is something that a lot of people have touched on throughout the history of the world, and to be honest it's the same concept as, well, buying a ps3/x360/wii. You could argue that one is better than the other, but it mainly depends on your preferences and the current setting of your life on which you would like to buy a console. If your a homeless person, no home, no family, no friends, committing suicide may not be a bad idea. Thinking about what i just said i have a feeling that it's really cruel to say that, but believe me when i say this, No pain is better than pain itself. Im not saying that any person should go out any kill themself, im saying that its purely your choice. I honestly dont like the idea of people dying, because believe it or not, this world is full of absolutely beautiful and wise people, and every single one of them deserves to live.

I dont really know what i just said there, probably contradicted myself a good 5 times, but whatever.