Mysty Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090814024917/yugioh/images/6/6b/Red-EyesDarknessMetalDragonJUMP-EN-UR-LE.png[/img] Discuss this powerful Dragon. Also, discuss its combo with Future Fusion and FGD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 all of which are Bannable in their own right. REDRUM is the heart of all Dragon Decks...... he's bloody brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I can't figure out why Konami keeps this @3... it's clearly too good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Frost Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Future fusion is the only one that needs to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 This may come as a shock to none of you, but REDMD can't be Special Summoned from the Graveyard by its effect. ... Yeah, I dueled a guy yesterday on DMG who thought you could do that because he'd "seen it in a tournament". EDIT: [quote name='Da Frost' timestamp='1285281231' post='4649089'] [b]Chimeratech Overdragon[/b] is the only one that needs to be banned. [/quote] Fix'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Frost Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 ^^No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1285257034' post='4647899'] all of which are Bannable in their own right. REDRUM is the heart of all Dragon Decks...... he's bloody brilliant. [/quote] I may be missing something, but how is F.G.D. banworthy? The only thing I see going for it (other than Future Fusion) is Dragon's Mirror (which, if Future Fusion dies, then this takes longer to set up) and 5000 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 it's an easily summonable 5K beatstick with no drawback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Knight of Wisel Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thats why I used it against Lazar and the Dark Signers for pure beatstick capability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 This card, FGD and Future Fusion all can be stopped by one single card: Royal Oppression, also for FGD there is a good side deck material card called: Fusion Devourer. Call me stupid but that's my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1285297275' post='4649959'] it's an easily summonable 5K beatstick with no drawback. [/quote] Future Fusion makes it easy. Without it, it isn't so much. [quote name='M.B X' timestamp='1285300924' post='4650044'] This card, FGD and Future Fusion all can be stopped by one single card: Royal Oppression, also for FGD there is a good side deck material card called: Fusion Devourer. Call me stupid but that's my honest opinion. [/quote] Counterability =/= Balance. Just because a card can be countered, it doesn't mean it is balanced. ie. Chaos Emperor Dragon can be countered. Is that balanced? No. Also, Chimeratech Overdragon is banworthy with or without Future Fusion. Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is probably banworthy with or without Future Fusion and Five-Headed Dragon. Aside from those cards, it is an easy to Summon beatstick that can Summon another beatstick each turn with no real cost. The only things that can be balancing factors are the fact it can only Summon Dragons, it can't Summon another copy of itself and you need to dedicate your Deck to it for it to be useable. If the Deck dedication required to run Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is enough to balance it, it should be at 3. If it isn't, it needs to die. The existence of Future Fusion and Five-Headed Dragon just makes an already fairly easy to summon beatstick easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Frost Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 REDMD and F.G.D aren't banworthy, only Future Fusion is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='Judgment Phoenix' timestamp='1285309286' post='4650160'] Future Fusion makes it easy. Without it, it isn't so much. [/quote] Dragon's Mirror still makes it very easy to summon. In a good format taking a couple turns for a giant beatstick isn't much of a wait at all. Darkness is still broken with out the other cards. And easy to summon 2800 beatstick that can summon other large beatsticks isn't good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1285337420' post='4650449'] Dragon's Mirror still makes it very easy to summon. In a good format taking a couple turns for a giant beatstick isn't much of a wait at all. Darkness is still broken with out the other cards. And easy to summon 2800 beatstick that can summon other large beatsticks isn't good for the game. [/quote] Future Fusion does the Dragon dumping to allow Dragon's Mirror to allow for an easy FGD. IDK, what else could help Dragon's Mirror easily Summon FGD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 [quote name='Judgment Phoenix' timestamp='1285382402' post='4652242'] Future Fusion does the Dragon dumping to allow Dragon's Mirror to allow for an easy FGD. IDK, what else could help Dragon's Mirror easily Summon FGD? [/quote] Mask and Troop Dragon (yes I know Masked isn't good, just an example). Assuming you have Mask you can get enough in the grave in the first few turns. Also adding some mill would make it easier too. Why does that matter though? You should have 5 monsters in the grave in several turns assuming a "noormal" game and in a good format that wouldn't be that long? Also why does it matter since odds are you won't draw it till you already have, or are close to having, the 5 monsters in the grave to use Mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 [quote name='The Big Chill' timestamp='1285300375' post='4650028'] Thats why I used it against Lazar and the Dark Signers for pure beatstick capability [/quote] You're a Signer, and anime characters recently entered our real world. I get it. Or are you missing a piece of very important detail there? Anyhow, great in Hopeless. Then again, there are much more better targets of the banhammer, like the recent x-sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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