Kuri Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 *lulz at lack of modern knowledge* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I think the reason why they don't print Slifer already is because it almost "needs" a nerf to be tournament legal. Even if it is just "This card cannot be Special Summoned" they would invoke the wrath of the Yugi and Atem fanbase. Super Mega Ultra Chicken was cooked in battery acid before being served to us, its that bad. Inb4commentsayingsliferisntbroken;IamreferingtoKonamilogicorlackthereof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Slifer's a permanent Trap Hole for anything below Cyber Dragon... and even then, so long as you have 1 card in your hand it's safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1290385389' post='4801931'] Slifer's a permanent Trap Hole for anything below Cyber Dragon... and even then, so long as you have 1 card in your hand it's safe. [/quote] Then your opponent realizes they can still SS, and you F-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 the effects they all shared were All three Egyptian god cards share these similar effects: * Each card requires a Tribute of 3 monsters in order to be Summoned from your hand to the field. * They are unaffected by the effects of Spell, Trap and Effect Monster Cards unless the effect is to switch their battle position or increase or decrease their ATK or DEF points, in which case they are affected for one turn. * Control of the cards on the field cannot change. However, they can switch possession while not on the field. * Only chosen duelists linked to the ancient past may control a god card. * When in defense position, they can block an attack or effect targeting another monster on their controller's field and become the target. * If they are Special Summoned from the graveyard, they are returned to it at the end of the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 LOL copy pasta from Wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='!' timestamp='1290387072' post='4802026'] LOL copy pasta from Wiki. [/quote] i did lol so what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Obelisk would have actually been amazing if he was Dark. *sigh* On Topic: These will never be banned. In fact, the effect versions of the cards were made so that the cards could be played legally albeit their effects are really watered down. If something requires me to use three tributes to summon it, it has better be worth it either by -'ing my opponent to equal out the -3ness or provide some superior advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think Slifer would be fine with 1000 per card in hand, and I think it could get away without the 2000 Trap Hole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Too bad it's konami's thing to stick with bad card decisions because I would love to see a massive errata for the Wing Dragon of Ra. My take on Ra's true effect: [quote=The Winged Dragon of Ra][color="#FFA500"]You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of Spells, Traps or Effect Monsters. If this card is Special Summoned, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. The ATK and DEF of this card is equal to the combined ATK and DEF of the monsters you Tributed for the Tribute Summon of this card. Only this card's original owner can declare an attack with this card or activate it's effects. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard this card gains the following effects: 1) Once only, you can pay Life Points so that you only have 100 left, to have this card gain ATK and DEF equal to the amount of Life Points paid. 2) You can pay 1000 Life Points to select and destroy 1 card on the field.[/color][/quote] My take on Obelisk's True effect(It's not far from the TCG): [quote=Obelisk the Tormentor][color="#0000FF"]You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of Spells, Traps or Effect Monsters. If this card is Special Summoned, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. This card cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects. You can Tribute 1 monster to have this card gain ATK equal to the the Tributed monster's ATK. You can Tribute 2 monsters to destroy all monsters your opponent controls and inflict 4000 damage to your opponent's Life Points. This card cannot declare an attack the turn this effect is activated.[/color] [/quote] My Slifer wish effect:[quote=Slifer the Sky Dragon][color="#FF0000"]You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of Spells, Traps or Effect Monsters. If this card is Special Summoned, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. This card gains 1000 ATK and DEF for each card in your hand. When your opponent Summons a monster(s), decrease its ATK or DEF by 2000, depending on its Battle Position; if the ATK or DEF of the Summoned monster(s) is 0 after this effect resolves, destroy the monster(s).[/color][/quote] The above effects would please everyone, I'm sure. These wouldn't even touch the metagame and nobody would complain. I also would like to see them printed as Red, Yellow and Blue on the front like to originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-duelist Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Slifer [font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"]You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of Spells, Traps or Effect Monsters. The original ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Once per turn, when your opponent Summons a monster with 2000 or less ATK, you can discard 1 card to negate the Summon of that card and destroy it.[/font] [font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"] [/font] [font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"]hmmm, that sounds about right[/font] [font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"] [/font] [font="tahoma, arial, verdana, sans-serif"]i hope they come out with slifer soon [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think Bloo-D is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebihp2007 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Ra is poorly made.. In fact, it deosn't make any sense .. It has "?" ATK points and that "?" is undefined. It says that you [b][u]CAN[/u][/b] pay blah blah to give him that much ATK, but what if I don't?? What its ATK then? EDIT: there is a big difference between "?" ATK and this "monster's ATK is" ... and "0" ATK and "this monster gains X attack.." EDIT 2: regarding the artworks: Ra looks cool and doesn't look like a chicken anymore and Obelisk is kinda broken.. it needs a cool background .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Konami has forgotten how to properly make a ? monster these days. The first example I can think of would be Rai-Jin, where all he does is increase the ATK of monsters on the field. So he only has as much ATK as he increases for the others as well =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I could only see Ra being effective early on, and only if you have the proper backup (like a counter Trap or two). Obelisk is definitely the more effective of the two, but he's still vulnerable to non-targeting effects. I don't think I'd ever have a reason to run either of these cards. I hope Slifer gets good treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='TheTurtleOnceCalledGod' timestamp='1290382870' post='4801837'] I think the reason why they don't print Slifer already is because it almost "needs" a nerf to be tournament legal. Even if it is just "This card cannot be Special Summoned" they would invoke the wrath of the Yugi and Atem fanbase. Super Mega Ultra Chicken was cooked in battery acid before being served to us, its that bad. Inb4commentsayingsliferisntbroken;IamreferingtoKonamilogicorlackthereof [/quote] [color="#006400"] >implying Konami cares about the fanbase[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1290442072' post='4802976'] Konami has forgotten how to properly make a ? monster these days. [/quote] They knew what they were doing - stopping Sangan from searching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Didn't they release each OCG god in like January of each of the past 2 years? By that pattern, this year should be Slifer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1290445507' post='4803043'] Didn't they release each OCG god in like January of each of the past 2 years? By that pattern, this year should be Slifer's. [/quote] IIRC, this year's one is confirmed to be the random Machine Emperor Boss dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Awww...oh well, I'm curious about what Machine Divine Emperor Machinecle Infinity Cubic's effect would be. Holy hell, that's an annoyingly impossible name to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Hooray for localization, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='sebihp2007' timestamp='1290433383' post='4802833'] Ra is poorly made.. In fact, it deosn't make any sense .. It has "?" ATK points and that "?" is undefined. It says that you [b][u]CAN[/u][/b] pay blah blah to give him that much ATK, but what if I don't?? What its ATK then? [/quote] Then its ATK is whatever you want it to be. Obv. ? ATK sucks, since it's not 0. There is currently one card that supports monsters with ? ATK. Absolutely no prize given to the person who comes up with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 No prize, but I know it! Catoblepas and the Witch of Fate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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