Canadian Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 In my opinion, it should be banned. It's substitutoad (within reason...) for plants. [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081114035433/yugioh/images/9/98/LonefireBlossomCP07-EN-SR-UE.png[/img] At least put it at 1? Discuss.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1291077847' post='4819417'] In my opinion, it should be banned. [/quote] Word. I hate when my opponent summons this and it turns into a Tytannial or a Gigaplant. I especially hate when they way to it was summoned was by Special Summon and the opponent Normal Summons Gigaplant to bring back Lonefire and bring out a Tytannial or another Gigaplant. Tytannial is quite a pain, but I think this is the real problem. Being able to search out a powerful plant like that seems rather broken. I'm thinking put it at 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 This card gave Plants speed! I somehow find it being fine at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Would be perfectly fine at 3. This is a tactical card, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 With Warning, it's not that threatening..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Frost Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Fine at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 it's fine @2, if it was @1 or even @0 then plants would become a slight bit slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Hand Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 An almost-guaranteed 2400+ beatstick, with one card. BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 [quote]Would be perfectly fine at 3.[/quote] That "revive if you have 3 copies in the grave" card and pot of avarice would be abuses quite a lot if this was @3. Fin @2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 The problem is that if this card were banned, plants would lose almost all the playability they have. Plus, with the current metagame, Tytannial isn't much of a threat anymore... (After all, it's no Stardust...). Sure it's powerful, but its effect can only be used properly while there are other plants on your field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would see them semi limiting or limiting debris first, because honestly, this card isn't that bad for the game. At 2 its good, 1 would kill plant viability, 0 would stick the nail in the coffin, and 3 would do what thunder said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebihp2007 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I find it plainly imbalanced that you are able to summon Tytannial, Princess of Camellias, without tributes, preparations or such .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｎｏ．１７ リバイス・ドラゴン Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1291077847' post='4819417'] In my opinion, it should be banned. It's substitutoad (within reason...) for plants. At least put it at 1? Discuss.[/center] [/quote] ITT People that lose to plant dekcs. Substitoad You can Tribute 1 monster to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your Deck, except "Frog the Jam". "Frog" monsters, except "Frog the Jam", cannot be destroyed by battle. Lonefire Blossom [size="7"][b]Once per turn[/b][/size], you can Tribute 1 face-up Plant-Type monster to Special Summon 1 Plant-Type monster from your Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Nauske' timestamp='1291162441' post='4821322'] ITT People that lose to plant dekcs. Substitoad You can Tribute 1 monster to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your Deck, except "Frog the Jam". "Frog" monsters, except "Frog the Jam", cannot be destroyed by battle. Lonefire Blossom [size="7"][b]Once per turn[/b][/size], you can Tribute 1 face-up Plant-Type monster to Special Summon 1 Plant-Type monster from your Deck. [/quote] Frogs don't have a 2800 beater... I say, @1 is good... with 3... it could be a generic deck thinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I'm not sure what to think of this. It's good for Plants in a non-broken way, but can also be used in a broken way. I guess it comes down to the cards that are combined with it that really send it over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I like how people think this card only makes a 2800 beater. lol ycm, go play against some dandywarrior decks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis2 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1291108077' post='4820113'] With Warning, it's not that threatening..... [/quote] With DNA Surgery, it's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 This+Dandylion = Free 4 beaters. It should be limited, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1291139742' post='4820568'] That "revive if you have 3 copies in the grave" card and pot of avarice would be abuses quite a lot if this was @3. Fin @2 though. [/quote] Yeah, Symbol of Lonefire will rip the meta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Luis2' timestamp='1291179582' post='4821841'] With DNA Surgery, it's useless. [/quote] DAD, JD, Synchros, and a ton of other cards are useless if you use Black Horn of Heaven. Oppression, Warning, or Judgment. Doesn't make them any less powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I think it's fine at 2. Just like I thought Substitoad was fine. Ronintoadin was the one they should've hit, in my opinion. As for this, it summons a 2800 beatstick... that has no protection on its own. I mean, if you face a Tytannial first turn, more likely than not she'll be the only monster out there and to negate anything you'd have to Tribute herself. As for Gigaplant, it's kind of slow considering you have to Normal Summon Giga to get its effect, and if you Normal Summoned Lonefire this turn you pretty much summoned a vanilla 2400. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Seems like everyone things that no matter what they'll have creature removal in their starting hand. It should be banned. If an entire type relies on one card, then obviously that type needs to drop the card and get a boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMugen Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1291108077' post='4820113'] With Warning, it's not that threatening..... [/quote] or i could not pay that much and just use war chariot or bottomless O_o XD [quote name='Ghostmyth' timestamp='1291186562' post='4821954'] Seems like everyone things that no matter what they'll have creature removal in their starting hand. It should be banned. If an entire type relies on one card, then obviously that type needs to drop the card and get a boost. [/quote] Thats cuz i do lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 It's fine @2. Before this goes to 1, Dandylion and/or Debris Dragon will get hit, and that will probably be enough to do major damage to the Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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