Resident Fascist Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 At my locals today, I happened to witness the single most *Pathetic* card(s) ever. Yup, those so called "Egypitian god cards." Why? THEY ARE BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS at the top of your deck, and they arn't even tornement legal. Not only is Slifer incorrectly named(It should be Osiris) but thier true attack values are printed as XXXX or ????, minus Tormentor. A variable unsigned is 0, correct? Since there is nothing in the description to say about the effects, the variables for ATK/DEF are unsigned, making them 0. Conversation I had during a game:I had Stardust Dragon and Brionac on the field. The other guy had Ra and Osiris(Sorry, calling it Slifer is like calling Konami Upperdeck) In his hand. Me: Your go.Him: I'll play Slifer, It has 5000 ATK because I have 5 Cards in my hand.Me:Slifer is vanilla. 0ATK/0DEF.Him: No it isn't. The effect in the cartoon(It's a anime...) says so.Me:If everything that happened in the anime happened In real life we'd be riding on Motorcycles playing card games inside Purple fire.Him: I don't remember that happening...Me: 5D'S.Me: besides, It IS Vanilla, [Divine-Beast] Not [Divine-Beast/Effect]Him: I'll have my Slifer attack your Brionac.Me: -2300 for you. That's the game.Him: No -2700 for you!Me:Fine...Him:Your turn.*Gets De-synchro**Plays Trap, destroys Slifer and attacks directly, wins teh game*-- Anyone got a CLEAR awnser? Slifer technicially doesn't mention it's effect so, It's 0 ATK/0 DEF untill it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 You can't even run Slifer.The card cannot be played regardless because it has no effect and is not specified to a card-color-type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I know he shouldn't have been running it in the first place. I just didn't want to annoy the guy. The only rule he understood was release summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I know he shouldn't have been running it in the first place. I just didn't want to annoy the guy. The only rule he understood was release summon. He can't even summon it.Correction, he is not allowed to summon it.Slap him with your hand-glove the next time he does that and just walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 For the record, Original-Print Slifer uses the World Champ/Tagforce effect:You must offer 3 Tributes to Tribute Summon this card. The ATK and DEF of this card becomes the number of cards in your hand x 1000. When this card is Special Summoned, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. While this card is face-up on the field, it cannot be targeted by Spells, Traps, or Monster effects. Additionally, when your opponent successfully Summons or Flip Summons a monster with 2000 DEF or less, it destroys that monster.(The wiki only lists the Wc08 effect as the most recent, and I'm too lazy to copy the Wc10 one from my DS)Pretty much its ALMOST the same as the anime, except you need to run a few more non-targeting effects. So until we get a Kazuki version of Slifer, the above effect is the one it uses.....Or at least its the one everyone can agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hmm...So I'm half right am I? Original erata on "Slifer The Sky Dragon":"The heavens twist and thunder roars, signaling the coming of this ancient creature, and the dawn of true power."ATK/X000 DEF/X000 Erata from World Championship 2008:"You must offer 3 Tributes to Tribute Summon this card. The ATK and DEF of this card becomes the number of cards in your hand x 1000. When this card is Special Summoned, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. While this card is face-up on the field, it cannot be targeted by Spells, Traps, or Monster effects. Additionally, when your opponent successfully Summons or Flip Summons a monster with 2000 DEF or less, it destroys that monster." My problem is that "X" is a unsigned variable. It could be anything. And I have a Issue with Seal Of Oric[Whatever] "This Spell Card is impervious to negation, destruction and removal. Increase the ATK of all your monsters by 500. You control a back row of monsters that cannot be attacked while a monster is in the front row. Send this card from your hand to the Graveyard to negate and destroy any card. The soul of whichever duelist loses this Duel is forfeit to the winner." Way to scare the s*** out of children, Konami. Of course, It doesn't work. Science has once again proven that trading cards cannot cause strange effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 My problem is that "X" is a unsigned variable. It could be anything. In yugimonz, an "X" is the same as a "?"It just means you cant grab it from the deck with cards like Sangan. Also, only Konami judges uses the Seal card.Its not serious, obviously, but its more for laughs really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 No offense but the whole jabroniing about how noobs love God Cards is a bit overplayed on YCM...does it really require another topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 No offense but the whole jabroniing about how noobs love God Cards is a bit overplayed on YCM...does it really require another topic?we need to get off on other people's competence to make us feel better because we aren't secure about our own skills as a yugioh player. But yeah, we do need another thread. The next one should be how Winged Dragon of Ra can't be special summoned and that's why Obelisk is so much better. Not on topic, what was the build that used the gods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 No offense but the whole jabroniing about how noobs love God Cards is a bit overplayed on YCM...does it really require another topic?I had posted that Ra topic a while ago, and then another Ra topic popped up, and then this one popped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Whoawhoawhoawhoawhoa. Hold on a sec. You were horrible enough to have your suckish opponent have enough tributes to summon Osiris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 your opponent used illegal cards at your locals, lol, shame Slifer is the only illegal god card atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 1: You should have pointed out the "this card can not be used in a duel" thing to him. 2: You should stop dueling 9 year olds. The only possible excuse you could have would be that this was for a tournament, and even then you should have just called a deck check right then and there and won. 3: The kid has better taste then you. He watches the original series and you watch crap like 5D's. 4: Your opponent had 3 monsters on the field, 5 cards in hand, and you want us to consider you're the better duelist here? lol tl;dr - Don't make stupid topics in the TCG section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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