Countering Six Sams

[Manjoume Thunder]

so with only 38 days 11 hours an 22 minutes and about 10 seconds (at time of posting) until the yugioh ragnarok (quite literally) have you started preparing for the nightmare known as legendary six samurai?

what decks do you think will be able to counter them?
what cards are you going to side for them?
what cards are you going to main for them?

I haven't done a lot of testing against them but right now I am trying to include triple solemn warning, double veiler, double mst and crushoot in my main and some dust tornadoes or fairy winds for the side. I also think that my tkros who have been resting this format will have a lot of work.

thoughts?

[Father Wolf]

Mind Crush? so u can stop loops?

[Manjoume Thunder]

if they go gateway -> sam ->gm/kisan and search for kisan, I go mind crush and survive.

Or I go first, stack my crushoot and rape.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

main decking MST or Dust Tornado to stop that intial Gateway or United can really slow em down.

Same for maining 3 Book of Moon to stop initial Sam Swarms....

[El-Rrey]

Rai-Oh, MST and BoM's work pretty well against them!
Also, Fishes, Debris and LS decks have a nice match-up against them.

[bthepanda]

I'm not really familiar with LSS. Do they just do a bunch of gateway looping?

It's a silly idea but spell vanishing could work in the side if that's (part of) their main win condition. I'd go triple book and warning for main if they do lot's of swarming though. Really I kind of want to know how they play now.

[RAEGING D0GKING]

Trap Dustshoot.
Mind Cursh.
3 Book.
2 Veiler.
3 Warning
2 BTH.
1 Judgment.
1 Torrential.
2 Thunder King
1 Royal Oppression

Some of those cards will be mained and some will be sided.

[.Nu-13]

Main Tornadoes, MSTs and other stuff

[HaouJudai]

Heroes can use super polymerization once E Hero Neos Knight is released.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

In Japan, ragnarok has already started. They top half the locals with ease.

I personally use MIND CRUSH.

[Canadian]

Shriek is showing to me that the following cards can be useful:

Chain Disappearance
Puppet Plant (I'm serious guyz)
Malevolent Catastrophe

These, in addition to whats already been said.

Seriously though, Puppet Plant makes Veiler look like sh** against Legendary 6 Sams.

[.Nu-13]

People, start maining Crows...

[~British Soul~]

[quote name='bthepanda' timestamp='1293535396' post='4889354']
I'm not really familiar with LSS. Do they just do a bunch of gateway looping?
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well they've been around in Japan since Storm of Ragnarok came out

but since i don't live in Japan i don't know about the gateway looping, i'm sure they do, but i'll need to see for myself

[.Nu-13]

They can get OVER 9000! counters (literally) in one turn

[~British Soul~]

is there a video where i can see this

[.Nu-13]

[quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1291574134' post='4831858']
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaA1yYr00xE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4lccNnU2-Q&feature=player_embedded

For those who don't want to watch the video:

Combo 1

1 Gateway
1 United (or a 2nd Gateway)
1 Mizuho
1 Shinai


1. Activate the 2 spell cards.
2. Summon the 2 Samurai (use the effect of the 2nd one) <6 counters>
3. Use Gateway to search for a 2nd Mizuho <2 counters> and special summon him. <[b]5[/b] counters>
4. Use Mizuho's effect, tribute Shinai and destroy the other Mizuho then use Shinai's effect to bring the destroyed Mizuho back to your hand.
5. Special summon Mizuho. <8 counters>
6. Use Gateway to return Shinai to your hand <4 counters> and summon him <[b]7[/b] counters>
7. Use Mizuho's effect, tribute Shinai and destroy the other Mizuho then use Shinai's effect to bring the destroyed Mizuho back to your hand.
8. Special summon Mizuho. <10 counters>
9. Use Gateway to return Shinai to your hand <6 counters> and summon him <[b]9[/b] counters>
10. Repeat until you have over9000 counters.



Combo 2
replace Mizuho and Shinai in the opening hand with Kagemusha and Kageki. Search for Mizuho and Shinai with Gateway (summon one with Wayne)and do the same trick.


Cons
You have to run 1 Yoriko more than 1 Mizuho and some Shinais.

Pros
over9000 counters = over9000 possibilities

[size="1"]Posting here because nobody gives a f*** about the strategy section.[/size]
[size="1"]i didn't get the hand rape one[/size]

[b]PROTIP: Watch the videos, I suck at explaining.[/b]
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[HaouJudai]

you want to see a video of something going over 9000? I don't think that's ever happened in the anime world after someone returned from the dead to save the earth.

I would have to double check my scouter and then break it while shouting aloud if that happened

something that occurs to me which would be a great side option for these guyz - crevice to a dd

[byak]

imo triple Book, double mst, spell shattering arrow, rai-oh, and summon limit if you're feeling like a champ.

[Yeezus]

2 Thunder King
3 Books
2 MST
2 Dusts
1 Mind Crush
1 Dustshoot

Just realised they're all in my main/side for infernity lolol

But I'm gonna run these guys

[Coffee Black]

I plan on suffering until March 2011 comes around. I don't feel like changing my main deck dramatically to give me advantage over such a broken deck. And I refuse to make a side full of tech to beat them. That crushoot idea is nice though lol

[The ReBeL]

lol play anti meta or rfp decks with mained mst spell shatterings, mind crush, dustshoot.

Run control frog deck to use mind crush and spiritual water art

[byak]

If Cloudians can get Kristya out faster they'll do fine.

[LuffyLaxer]

another tele-dad-esque format? imma lie down. you kids have fun.

[Manjoume Thunder]

difference is that teledad tooks skill to play and the mirror was fun
sams are hurr durr gateway hurr durr 5 monsters

besides, they will never be as good as teledad, trust me

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1293610674' post='4892168']
difference is that teledad tooks skill to play and the mirror was fun
sams are hurr durr gateway hurr durr 5 monsters

besides, they will never be as good as teledad, trust me
[/quote]
TeleDAD=Best format ever