Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 So, the OCG is apparently changing the "priority" rule. Monsters can no longer have priority over spells unless they are Trigger speed. Meaning you can lol when you bottomless a DAD or Judgment Dragon. Source, but it's in JP. [url="http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&event=IE0004&wid=60796&target=faq"]http://yugioh.faq.ko...0796&target=faq[/url] SO hopefully it's only a matter of time before it comes over to the TCG Over a year late, it is now in the TCG http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=3799 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I've believe it when Shriek say it's true =o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 This changes quite a bit. Bottomless doesn't look too bad compared to Warning now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Wow. This is a MASSIVE rule change! If TRUE, bye bye Prisons and welcome back Bottomless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Good idea. I've always hated the way priority worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Makes sense. Except if that's true, then Urai (and a good number of other monsters) would now be less powerful. The ruling might not change in the English version, just the OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 meaning DAD and JD come to the field and it's bottomless it can't use their effects fast enough before BTH and SJ hit them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 AWESOME ASSLESS C'MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 That might as well turn bottomless into a counter trap... -.- this is BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 So lets say your summon Lyla so you cant priority and they can use bth and Lyla wont get her effect :0 Dont like this at all tbh. Changes the game. And BTH would see play now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Odin el Padre de los Aesir' timestamp='1298284422' post='5023145'] So lets say your summon Lyla so you cant priority and they can use bth and Lyla wont get her effect :0 Dont like this at all tbh. Changes the game. And BTH would see play now. [/quote] Lyla could never destroy when she was Bottomlessed. She would activate her effect to go to defense mode Then Bottomless would get chained Resolves backward She's destroyed before she changed to defense mode and therefore never got to destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Can someone exaplin to me how would this exactly work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Bottomless becomes better than warning now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1298297920' post='5023327'] Can someone exaplin to me how would this exactly work? [/quote] Priority still exists. Priority still allows my spell speed 2 spells and traps to be used as chain link 1 when a guy is summoned (Torrential, book of moon, etc...). If I summon a gadget I can still use its trigger effect as normal. If I summon an Exiled Force I now have to wait until after the "When a card is summoned" activation window before I can use its effect, so now my opponent can use book of moon or trap hole and prevent me being able to use his ignition effect to destroy their monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I...don't like it. Ignition Effects having priority is a key part of the foundation of the game, and this change, if official, will severely change a ton of rulings and the power of several cards. And anyone who understands priority but isn't aware of the ruling change is going to be very confused and annoyed when other people are suddenly "idiots" and telling them they can't use priority the way they've always been able to. More importantly, why are they changing this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Fraz' timestamp='1298298485' post='5023344'] Priority still exists. Priority still allows my spell speed 2 spells and traps to be used as chain link 1 when a guy is summoned (Torrential, book of moon, etc...). If I summon a gadget I can still use its trigger effect as normal. If I summon an Exiled Force I now have to wait until after the "When a card is summoned" activation window before I can use its effect, so now my opponent can use book of moon or trap hole and prevent me being able to use his ignition effect to destroy their monster. [/quote] ...I [b]REALLY[/b] hope that it's fake -.-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1298298993' post='5023365'] More importantly, why are they changing this now? [/quote] Idk. Maybe to help out Exceeds? Though the reasoning for limiting Book of Moon is a lot clearer now. and yes, if this rule change occurs, only monsters with effects you have to activate will be effected(ignition). Monsters with effects that happen when you summon them (trigger), like Gadgets, Monarchs, Stratos, will not be effected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 It's pretty true. It explains why Book is @1, it makes Trap Hole and Bottomless Trap Hole good, it makes Veiler god, and Plants get s*** on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Priority existed since the beggining of the game. Why would they change it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Look, if they're changing the base mechanics of the game just to help Exceeds, then clearly they're stupider than I allowed myself to believe. This is like saying "let's try something new, but now let's change the very rules of the game so our idea doesn't suck as much". Wouldn't this form of priority HURT Exceeds, who can't use their effects the moment they're brought out? Book of Moon is both for Exceeds and the fact everyone runs it. That does not make it a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 So wait, if I got this right. If a card's effect specifically designates activation at the time of Summon, like Debris Dragon or Gadgets, it works as always, meaning that first your effect triggers, then opponent chains. However, if its a card like Judgment Dragon, that has an Ignition effect at any time, they can Bottomless or Veiler it before I activate its effect? If yes, Book's limit makes sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1298299782' post='5023409'] So wait, if I got this right. If a card's effect specifically designates activation at the time of Summon, like Debris Dragon or Gadgets, it works as always, meaning that first your effect triggers, then opponent chains. However, if its a card like Judgment Dragon, that has an Ignition effect at any time, they can Bottomless or Veiler it before I activate its effect? If yes, Book's limit makes sense now [/quote] Yes, evidently Ignition Effects have to wait until the monster is Summoned and opponent/you has responded to Summon. You can still activate Quick Plays or Traps to your own Summon though, such as Torrential. Uria will lose its priority-induced awesomeness. JD and DAD will lose a chunk of their power. Exiled Force is less awesome. Almost all other Ignition effects will be weakened. Is this good or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 It's very good for the game tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 IMO, good. It makes stuff like DAD or JD a lot less broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 and it will make solemn warning cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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