-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Wonder if this kind of priority will be induced in the Games...coz...you know WC11..will like instantly become outdated and not by simply lacking a couple Sets... >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 i'm thinking they're doing it for the younger generation. alot of kids don't understand what priority means..... but i have mixed feelings about it... i like it and i don't like it..... hopefully it's not true..... but i have a feeling it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Apparently, it applies in OCG since 19th March, so since the release of Zexal SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1298303290' post='5023510'] Apparently, it applies in OCG since 19th March, so since the release of Zexal SD [/quote] It says it will be implemented at the time we get Starter Deck 2011 oh wait you types SD....i read it as XD...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 This will bring mixed feelings. I personally don't care because all my monsters are Ignition anyway (in my Monarchs anyway). Other people that run stuff like DAD and JD will be sad. LS are dead now. Gadgets and Monarchs are now even better. Book of Moon's limit makes sense. Overall I like, but it will take getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1298300764' post='5023446'] and it will make solemn warning cheaper. [/quote] Said someone who doesn't understand priority. I guess it's good...I don't know...this is a really fundamental change of rules, so it's hard to say. Why does Book's Limit make sense now? Yes, it's better, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1298305325' post='5023576'] Said someone who doesn't understand priority. [/quote] I understand it just fine. The big reason why people run Warnings is because it negates the summon, meaning a monster was never on the field so it cannot call priority. If BTH, (a card not evereyone ran the max of all the time) can accomplish the same thing, demand for Warning will go down. Solemn Warning and Judgment are still the best at what they do, and BTH wont stop Triggers, but when's the last time someone Solemn Warning'd a Gadget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Next Banlist has Bottomless Trap Hole @1, Trap Hole @2, and Darkness Approaches @1. Yep, called it. [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1298302430' post='5023494'] alot of kids don't understand what priority means..... [/quote] This is why they [i]LEARN[/i] about it in the game. ....owait, Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1298305668' post='5023594'] I understand it just fine. The big reason why people run Warnings is because it negates the summon, meaning a monster was never on the field so it cannot call priority. If BTH, (a card not evereyone ran the max of all the time) can accomplish the same thing, demand for Warning will go down. Solemn Warning and Judgment are still the best at what they do, and BTH wont stop Triggers, but when's the last time someone Solemn Warning'd a Gadget? [/quote] Wow, a smart person. But, despite this, people do Solemn Warning Monarchs so that's where you're not entirely wrong. But this ruling will make Bottomless still see more play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1298305668' post='5023594'] I understand it just fine. The big reason why people run Warnings is because it negates the summon, meaning a monster was never on the field so it cannot call priority. If BTH, (a card not evereyone ran the max of all the time) can accomplish the same thing, demand for Warning will go down. Solemn Warning and Judgment are still the best at what they do, and BTH wont stop Triggers, but when's the last time someone Solemn Warning'd a Gadget? [/quote] Well this is embarrassing. I thought you meant "cheaper" as in "more gooder", not "less expensive". Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Of course people "Solemn Warning" Monarchs. It's an optional Trigger effect that wont be fazed by the new Priority rulings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 ...Which was the point of that argument. Person 1) Bottomless now stops most monster effects Solemn stopped - nobody Solemn's a Gadget Person 2) People Solemn Monarchs, though Then you sound like you're insulting person 2 for thinking Bottomless stops Monarchs... Too lazy to scroll up and check names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 The whole "argument" was misunderstandings and over-exaggerations. Don;t need to press the matter anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 It's possible I misunderstood the point established. I heard "people don't Solemn Gadgets" and "but people still Solemn Monarchs" in a conversation about Bottomless being able to share the perks of Warning in some cases due to priority change. No insults were intended in my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 This is going to screw up alot of the game, mainly in balancing. I really hope this is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1298307342' post='5023654'] This is going to screw up alot of the game, mainly in balancing. I really hope this is false. [/quote] Do you have any specific examples of how this will mess up balancing? In cases like DAD and JD, this is a good thing, severely weakening their brokenness. Lonefire also gets a bit weaker. But things like Exiled Force get completely cheated. Uria loses its main advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I personally like it. It gives accountability. No longer can someone use up a handful of resources and special summon a big monster and have it guarantee (minus Solemn) to do damage. Or in some cases, (DAD, JD) give up absolutely no resources and clear the field. The game should be based in strategy. The recent run of special summoned monsters hardly use any. Sure, some cards will get screwed over, but I feel that it's a necessary evil. However that being said, I really feel Heavy Storm never should have been banned. People need to be able to be punished for over extending their reach. And at this point I'm pretty sure this has been proven that it's going to happen. In the OCG at least. And when's the last time TCG didn't follow suit? The only question is if it will happen at the same time as the OCG, or if it'll happen when Zexall hits TCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 or you know, you can just ban JD, DAD and a couple of other cards and don't mess with the bloody rules great job, konamifags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Anti-Meta is the new Meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Don't worry. Blackwings and Six Samurai will still be dominating the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I'm wondering, if my opponent goes to summon Shi En, I can now bottomless it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote]Don't worry. Blackwings and Six Samurai will still be dominating the meta.[/quote] At least I don't have to even try playing plants this format. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1298309854' post='5023725'] I'm wondering, if my opponent goes to summon Shi En, I can now bottomless it? [/quote] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1298309854' post='5023725'] I'm wondering, if my opponent goes to summon Shi En, I can now bottomless it? [/quote] Shi En is a Quick Effect, not an Ignition Effect. An Ignition Effect is one the player chooses to activate during their Main Phase, such as Exiled Force, Lonefire Blossom, Breaker's S/T destruction effect, the Machine Emperors' Synchro absorption, Zombie Master's revival, etc. The main difference is that, instead of Summoning such monsters and immediately activating the effect before opponent can respond, you have to wait until the Summon was responded to (cards like Torrential, Book, Trap Hole, etc). This will prevent you from pushing an effect through even if the monster would be destroyed upon Summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 old OCG rule is old One of my friends told me that in Japan they don't have priority effects and that we should not have priority effects too, we lul'd of course. but now, if they gonna apply this to the TCG, then F**k them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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