Tentacruel Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 18 year olds are just as ignorant and stupid as 16 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 People are going to suffer all the negative aspects that come with being inexperienced drivers no matter which age they start at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masochistic Joker Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Keep it at 16 so guys like me don't have to be told after having our license for months and hear "young man, your vision is too bad to be driving at high speeds." I'm pretty sure a majority of the people here that spent their gaming days playing the game boy, game boy color, and game boy advance have bad vision as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 [quote name='Horrific' timestamp='1299105380' post='5046615'] 18 year olds are just as ignorant and stupid as 16 year olds. [/quote] This, even more so since they'll be new drivers instead of drivers with 2 years of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekstasy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 It's fine the way it is? It would be a waste of effort to change everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 There is no real "driving" age. Some states let you get your license at 17, some at 16, and I think even a select few at 15 (provisional license, I believe). Any raising of the "driving" age on a state-by-state basis is stupid. You act as if you gain so much knowledge about driving in two years, when you aren't even driving those two years. Also, I would much rather have everyone start driving before they head off to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagan Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1299120650' post='5047299'] I would much rather have everyone start driving before they head off to college. [/quote] Pretty much this. If by then they aren't mature enough... [color="#FFFFFF"]Natural selection, heheh. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='Horrific' timestamp='1299105380' post='5046615'] 18 year olds are just as ignorant and stupid as 16 year olds. [/quote] Proof or GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just because someone is older doesn't mean they'll be smarter. No. Practice makes perfect. Age 16. Why? Get some beginning experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Meh, I guess you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaring Rose Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 In Australia you have to be 16 to get your L's Basically, you are learning for 150 hours i think. Then after that you get your P's for a year, then another P for 2 years. So 3 years experience before you get your full licence here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Absolutely not. Teenagers need the ability to transport themselves and their family in order to serve the workforce and survive socially in such a globalized society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 The driving age should stay where it is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i think it shoud be lowered, it actually used to be 14 once. there are good reasons to this 1. 14 was considered to young mainly because of the height difference, but they have new functions to raise your seat or w/e, so instead they should make a height limit 2. younger people have faster reaction times to avoid major accidents and injuries than older people 3. younger people are more alert to danger because their fear in being inexperienced and doing something unfamiliar to them 4. even if you lowered it most parents and student would not want to deal with gas prices anyways, the legal age to go into the work force and provide an income to pay for gas is 16, so only the rich few can drive and the rich few according to the law of social status, means that no matter how smart or strong someone is, in social status who ever starts with a higher income has a enviromental advantage 5. 2 of my cousins got their license at age 14 and they had no issues with accidents and got even better as time progressed, so that when they did reach the age of 16 they were safer drivers than most adults. meaning good habits were learned because more parents take caution for a younger age setting better examples to follow off and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaring Rose Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='Thatnoobkorean' timestamp='1299139293' post='5047846'] i think it shoud be lowered, it actually used to be 14 once. there are good reasons to this 1. 14 was considered to young mainly because of the height difference, but they have new functions to raise your seat or w/e, so instead they should make a height limit 2. younger people have faster reaction times to avoid major accidents and injuries than older people 3. younger people are more alert to danger because their fear in being inexperienced and doing something unfamiliar to them 4. even if you lowered it most parents and student would not want to deal with gas prices anyways, the legal age to go into the work force and provide an income to pay for gas is 16, so only the rich few can drive and the rich few according to the law of social status, means that no matter how smart or strong someone is, in social status who ever starts with a higher income has a enviromental advantage 5. 2 of my cousins got their license at age 14 and they had no issues with accidents and got even better as time progressed, so that when they did reach the age of 16 they were safer drivers than most adults. meaning good habits were learned because more parents take caution for a younger age setting better examples to follow off and all that [/quote] Go ahead. Then kids that play NFS and TDU are going to go street racing and kill themselves before they even hit puberty. Don't forget they should allow 12 year old gun licenses, and give 8 year old their own houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valliant12 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 It shouldn't change, some people just don't have the experience that others do, it just takes practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='Sky Fire' timestamp='1299145781' post='5047926'] Go ahead. Then kids that play NFS and TDU are going to go street racing and kill themselves before they even hit puberty. Don't forget they should allow 12 year old gun licenses, and give 8 year old their own houses. [/quote] Pretty much this. Kids entering high school and only just starting or finishing dealing with puberty don't have the mental stability to be responsible for every other driver they come close to on the roads and they are far too easily distracted for their own good and the good of others. No offense freshman, but stay the heck away from my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 In most countries, the age limit is 18, and even 21. The USA should learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='JG.' timestamp='1299182834' post='5048547'] In most countries, the age limit is 18, and even 21. The USA should learn. [/quote] Argumentum ad Popularum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 [quote name='JG.' timestamp='1299182834' post='5048547'] In most countries, the age limit is 18, and even 21. The USA should learn. [/quote] Europe (and the rest of the world, in fact) might have the arguably smarter drinking age, but us Americans have the smarter driving age. Don't hate 'cause we're awesome, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 @Main topic: It [b]is[/b] 18. What are you talking about? [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1299193309' post='5049018'] Don't hate 'cause we're awesome, son. [/quote] Nope, we hate 'cause you're wrong. I personally believe that the age should be 18 - not necessarily because 16-year-olds are drastically worse drivers than 18-year-olds, but for psychological reasons. One of the things you saw your parents do when you were a kid - apart from drinking and having children - was driving. Somewhere, your brain connected "driving" with "being grown up" and it stayed in the back of your head for a while. Fast forward, you're sixteen. You get your license. Suddenly, you're grown up. You can drink, you can have kids, because you're grown up. Personally, I would rather see that happening to someone with a complete high school-level education rather than an incomplete one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 ...what kind of logic is that? I highly doubt anyone associates driving with being able to drink or have kids, even on an age level. If you surveyed a bunch of kids, I can assure you they associate driving with 16 or 17 and kids with 23 or 24. Just because you have the privilege to drive doesn't necessarily mean you feel you are an adult. I sure as hell don't feel like an adult, and I drive everywhere. And you fail to realize that a ton of good things come out of driving before you go off to college. First, you get experience before you go to college, and unless you are going to a local college, you probably won't be bringing a car. I'd rather have kids get two years of solid driving before taking a four-year or six-year hiatus from driving while in college. Furthermore, it bestows a sense of responsibility upon teenagers. Just because Europe is super-strict about their driving laws doesn't mean they are correct in their thinking; America sure as hell isn't correct keeping the drinking age at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlŠ¾rious Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Driving should only be for male, 35-year-old, Caucasian, businessmen. *shot* JK I prefer it like this: 16 to drive with adult, 18 to drive with gf. At least gives teens chance to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 [quote name='GlŠ¾rious' timestamp='1299198375' post='5049295'] Driving should only be for male, 35-year-old, Caucasian, businessmen. *shot* JK I prefer it like this: 16 to drive with adult, 18 to drive with gf. At least gives teens chance to learn. [/quote] Iirc its already like that. In Hawaii, you can drive at 14-15 with a permit or a person with a license present. 16-18, your parents are basically taking your punishments so you're still on that leash. And at 18 it's completely your responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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