.Nu-13 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [b][u]Exceed Monsters[/u][/b][list] [*]Exceed Monsters are black-colored, stylized with shooting stars around the card frame. [*]They are placed in your Extra Deck [*]Instead of Level, they have Ranks [*]Rank is not treated as a Level, so cards like Gravity Bind don't affect Exceed Monsters[/list] [u][b]Exceed Summon[/b][/u][list] [*]Exceed Summon is a type of a Special Summon [*]To Exceed Summon an Exceed Monster, you have to control the Exceed Material Monsters listed on an Exceed Monsters. So far, they are always monsters with the same Levels as Exceed's Rank, thought they wary in number of monsters needed Then, you stack the materials together and place the Exceed Monster on the top of them [*]Exceed Material Monsters are not sent to the Graveyard [*]Various effects make use of Exceed Material Monsters. "Removing an Exceed Material Monster" is simply taking it from the bottom of an Exceed Monster and putting it in the Graveyard. This is not treated as sending that monster to the Graveyard, so effects like Sangan will not trigger [*]Tokens cannot be used as Exceed Material Monsters [*]If an Exceed Monster is flipped face-down, it's Exceed Material Monsters are not removed from it.[/list] So now we have everything we have to know about Exceeds. So, discuss how will Exceeds impact the game, and are they spuerior or inferior to Synchros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 They kinda weak ATM...except for a very few selection which are...decent at best and...1 or 2 are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Disigma is awesome, Emperor Hope is pretty decent, the Mainspring one is cool too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Synchro is the hope for the future, not Exceeds. Flamvells and Fish can still probably bang these out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 At first, people were complaining on Synchros too. And now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1300313347' post='5077511'] At first, people were complaining on Synchros too. And now what? [/quote] Anyone have any links to discussions about Synchros as a new mechanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I like the concept, but think that they could end up breaking the game like they did Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1300313646' post='5077519'] Anyone have any links to discussions about Synchros as a new mechanic? [/quote] Will be hard to find it with search broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Well the fact that Tokens can't be used is pretty good, as we would've been seeing Tokens left and right. Now, I'm Gonna buy the Generation Force Pack and Starter Deck and make an epic Exceed Deck thingy. I'm pretty sure when we get more Exceeds, they are gonna be just as powerful, if not, almost as powerful as Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1300313347' post='5077511'] At first, people were complaining on Synchros too. And now what? [/quote] *sigh* Didn't we discuss this already? We got some of the most powerful Synchros in the first pack, the only problem was ease of summoning - if you didn't notice, we don't have that problem anymore. Exceeds can arrive ridiculously easily, but at best have decent effects. It doesn't matter what Rank Exceed it is, we can make it (on the first turn)...but would we want to? I mean, if you had Flamvell Firedog and Magician out, how long would it take you to pick between Stardust and Emperor Hope? Now, on to the mechanics: *The rules for Exceeds will have to SPECIFICALLY state that effects activated when the monster is sent to the Graveyard don't activate, otherwise 'removing an Exceed Material' would still be a form of sending to the Graveyard, just like Releasing. * Tokens should be usable for Exceeds, just not be Overlaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I'm just waiting for those sexy Rank 8's and Rank 1's to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 lol Rank 6 that requires 3... CBs rise in tier . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1300314714' post='5077560'] I mean, if you had Flamvell Firedog and Magician out, how long would it take you to pick between Stardust and Emperor Hope?[/quote] You have Firedog and any level 4 monster in your deck besides Magician out. How long will it take you to decide between Stardust and Hope? The point is, Exceeds don't require you to run Tuners. If you have 2 Non-tuners, or 1 tuner and 1 non-tuner, or 2 Tuners out of the same level, you can use them for an Exceed. It's that versatility that makes them in some ways better than Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1300315602' post='5077597'] I'm just waiting for those sexy Rank 8's and Rank 1's to come out. [/quote] If Rank 1's are made with epic effects, Kinka-Byo's gonna be boss to use with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 basically Exceed monster's purpose was to send underlaid monsters to graveyard for effect activations. but there have not been any overlaid and underlaid terms in this game till now. I come across the overlaid and unlaid terms during Duel Master but not sure if MTG had before or after. so exceed monsters send underlaid monsters to Graveyard and who know when they will make a mechanic to reverse the situation, have Overlaid monster destroyed to protect a underlaid monster xD. it just speculation, would this reverse situation break the game badly? so far rank 3 and 4 monsters are not bad of course, Disigma is pretty good since it require 3 level 4 monsters so 3 underlaid monsters with a little to none drawback at all this mechanic with Exceed material monsters is almost like they're are "battery" to keep their ability functional and get weaken after they're gone. that so far i seen with aspiring hope, revised dragon, but i doubt the same can be said to disigma and other rank 3 monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name='Yusei & Akiza' timestamp='1300319271' post='5077723'] this mechanic with Exceed material monsters is almost like they're are "battery" to keep their ability functional and get weaken after they're gone. that so far i seen with aspiring hope, revised dragon, but i doubt the same can be said to disigma and other rank 3 monster. [/quote] Well seeing how that only applied to the "No." Exceeds, they maybe the only ones getting the drawbacks. But we will have to wait for the other Exceeds to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name='Chihaya Kisaragi' timestamp='1300320063' post='5077755'] Well seeing how that only applied to the "No." Exceeds, they maybe the only ones getting the drawbacks. But we will have to wait for the other Exceeds to be sure. [/quote] yes you're right though it might be just mostly No. monsters but who know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 So far theres no way to give them more overlaid monsters, leaving them useless after a few turns. And on another not sense tokens cant be used, they can't be brought out and abused as much as people had hoped. For now Im going to say that Synchros are better, but I will say Exceeds will get more broken with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 i wonder if they confirm the info about token now? EDIT: oh there is now [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Exceed_Summon"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Exceed_Summon[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1300312300' post='5077472'][*]Tokens cannot be used as Exceed Material Monsters [*]If an Exceed Monster is flipped face-down, it's Exceed Material Monsters are not removed from it.[/quote] Wait, then why did Moon get limited? Also Phantom Skyblaster has now become officially failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Because of new priority ruling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1300324909' post='5077941'] Wait, then why did Moon get limited? Also Phantom Skyblaster has now become officially failed. [/quote] Yup well the speculation about tokens was good while it last lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote]So now we have everything we have to know about Exceeds.[/quote] What happens when they die or when their summon is negated (e.g. with solemn warning)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 ...s**t According to some video, Exceed gets negated, but monsters that would be its materials stay on the field And if its destroyed, materials also go to grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Unless that's the japanese translation of what they're saying, I don't know. Because the video that was posted skipped ahead of the duel after Solemn Judgment negated the Exceed Summon. The monsters on the field at that time weren't even the same. Only 1 of them were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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