DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [center]So I've gone only once to locals with iHop burn (beat 3, then got crushed by Sams). The Sam user didn't use Black-Winged much to my relief. I know this is a stupid quesiton since in most situations this card sucks, but just to make sure: [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100523073828/yugioh/images/thumb/2/2d/Black-WingedDragonTSHD-EN-UR-1E.png/300px-Black-WingedDragonTSHD-EN-UR-1E.png[/img] ...Not many people run this at locals, right? [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 People who dont have a 15 card Extra Deck might run this if they have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 And I've sided Blackfeather as an anti-burn card before. 1) It never works. I will never have the Synchro Materials available and go for Blackfeather over something else. 2) Thought Ruler is better because LP gain > Damage negation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 BFD is terrible because it loses ATK so eventually you can beat it down with Solar Flare or something. Prime is the real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Stand-In Dragon's effect is bad, i never go into it, there are better level 8's since it's effect relies on card effect damage, who uses card effect damage outside of burn anyway (that is a rhetorical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1300696491' post='5087004'] BFD is terrible because it loses ATK so eventually you can beat it down with Solar Flare or something. Prime is the real problem. [/quote] In Japan where priority doesn't matter Bottomless works on it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Burn runs Bottomless o.o? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 It worked well in locals when I used 2 of it instead of PoD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 You ran Maxx C right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibon1307 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I just run it in my Blackwing deck because I don't have Armed Wing or Silverwind, and because Theres been alot of Gravekeepers decks spamming Cannonholder/Dark Room of Nightmare combos so it helped to dominate through one or two of those. Other than that, Collectors item only... Wish it had more of a use though... Guess it did when Dark Strike Fighter wasn't banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 if i remember correctly Dark Strike fighter was banned before this came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1300700014' post='5087029'] You ran Maxx C right? [/quote] What? It's not in Japan yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Oh, sure. Forgot it was a TCG ex. Does the OCG have any more draw cards like it? It's so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 No one in their right mind will play this in their extra deck. The only time i see it is when kids have it cause it's a synchro. You've got nothing to fear. go forth, troll around with burn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1300708017' post='5087111'] Oh, sure. Forgot it was a TCG ex. Does the OCG have any more draw cards like it? It's so good. [/quote] Hyper Librarian. YEAH RIGHT WORKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Tune a veiler you side in to solar flare. Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Art is pro, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1300697414' post='5087014'] In Japan where priority doesn't matter Bottomless works on it, right? [/quote] No. Priority only applies to Ignition Effects, which are categorized as Spell Speed 1, anyway. Things like Chaos Sorcerer, Exiled Force, Lyla, Zombie Master and equivalents, Il Blud once Gemini Summoned. Monsters that can activate their effects at any time during the Main Phase, but cannot chain. Cards like Debris Dragon and Black Rose Dragon are Optional Trigger Effects (they get their effect at a specific timing) are also not affected by Priority. Prime Material's anti-destructon is used in RESPONSE to a destruction effect and adds to a chain. It's a Quick Effect, and categorized as Spell Speed 2. Bottomless does not negate the Summon, nor is it a Counter-Trap, so Prime and Stardust have no changes to their ability to negate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 >[i]I don't have Armed Wing or Silverwind[/i] >[i]my Blackwing deck[/i] wat >[i]Gravekeepers decks spamming Cannonholder/Dark Room of Nightmare combos[/i] WAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Ah yes, good old Gravekeeper Burn. Fun deck...just hasn't been very good since around 2006. Probably wasn't that amazing back then, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Gravekeeper burn had nothing to do with crap like [b]CANNONHOLDER[/b] and Dark Room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think he said "Cannonholder", not Commandant. Cannonholder Tributes a Gravekeeper to inflict 700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1300732669' post='5087683'] Gravekeeper burn had nothing to do with [b]crap[/b] like [b]Commandant[/b] and Dark Room. [/quote] Best post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 o noes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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