.Nu-13 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [center][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080323013404/yugioh/images/e/e7/LifeShaver-JP-Anime-DM.png[/img] [i]Your opponent must discard 1 card from their hand for each of your turns that this card has been Set.[/i] Discuss[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Technically it can't be used because it's very, very difficult to judge how long a card has been face-down. But DMG got past this by making it a Continuous Spell that lets you send it to the grave to discard a number of cards from your opponent's hand equal to the number of your turns it's been face-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Yeah, I wondered how anyone can really keep track of how long a SET card is on the field without revealing the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1300734358' post='5087757'] Yeah, I wondered how anyone can really keep track of how long a SET card is on the field without revealing the fact. [/quote] Anyone with a good brain would suspect it is this card when the opponent starts counting the turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Yugi had this in his deck. It must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Kaiba used it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1300737993' post='5087869'] Kaiba used it [/quote] Pretty sure he took it from Yugi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1300738240' post='5087874'] Pretty sure he took it from Yugi. [/quote] He did. Yugi played Exchange to take the Slifer Kaiba has stolen from his Deck with...I don't remember what. Now, why Yugi didn't just Set this before playing Exchange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1300737993' post='5087869'] Kaiba used it [/quote] He got it from Yugi's hand with Exchange. Yugi used Exchange to get Slifer the Sky Dragon into his hand. You'd think he would have been smart enough to set this card first. As long as your opponent doesn't change the card spaces he uses (which is illegal anyway), it can be easy to note how long each card was set. The problem is why would a player keep track of all the set cards? A player starting to count would be a dead giveaway for this card. EDIT: Dr. Cakey ninja'd me, but to answer his question: the writers handed Yugi the Idiot Ball to make the duel more intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Didn't Yugi use Exchange during Kaiba's Turn, due to Kaiba's Spell Sanctuary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1300739173' post='5087913'] Didn't Yugi use Exchange during Kaiba's Turn, due to Kaiba's Spell Sanctuary? [/quote] Maybe. Still, unless he drew Life Shaver that turn, he could have Set it to be sure Kaiba didn't use it against Slifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Oh, but you know in the anime no one EVER sets a card unless they "need to". Kaiba didn't even Set Lifeshaver the Turn he got it and set Interdimensional Matter Transporter instead. Yugi was stunned when he realized that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 How could he have known that he would use it against Slifer? Anyways, it's Limited on DMG and I put it in my Uria deck (since it's a Continuous Trap). Never actually got to use it, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I dont remember the duel play-by-play, but I thought Kaiba grabbed Slifer with the intention of playing it, and he used a Spell to grab it from Yugi's deck. If Yugi activated Exchange due to Spell Sanctuary, it explains why he left Life Shaver in his hand (he didn't have any way of knowing Kaiba would try and grab Slifer), but if Kaiba didn't have the means to Summon Slifer that turn, Yugi jumped the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1300740586' post='5087969'] I dont remember the duel play-by-play, but I thought Kaiba grabbed Slifer with the intention of playing it, and he used a Spell to grab it from Yugi's deck. If Yugi activated Exchange due to Spell Sanctuary, it explains why he left Life Shaver in his hand (he didn't have any way of knowing Kaiba would try and grab Slifer), but if Kaiba didn't have the means to Summon Slifer that turn, Yugi jumped the gun. [/quote] Well, something that gives more and more advantage the longer it's Set feels like something that should be set A.S.A.P. Not to mention Kaiba's an egomaniac who seems to change his deck for every duel and would probably get the best satisfaction by defeating you with your own cards and/or overpowering your cards with his own. Slifer isn't exactly easily overpowerable (thanks to insane draw cards like Cards of Sanctity, as well as Slifer's power being based on number of cards in hand), so it would seem predictable that Kaiba would try to use Slifer to defeat Yugi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 This card's name is punbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1300747771' post='5088198'] This card's name is punbelievable. [/quote] ...I don't get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I thought you can only set once per turn in the manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 But this is an anime card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I find it horrible to be honest. It's somewhat slow, and at most it can be used as a bluff or to discard two or three cards, which can be beneficial to the opponent. I just don't find it appealing / I don't like it. Judging by the name and after reading the effect, I would expect it to be something like "Decrease your opponent's Life Points by ____ for each turn this card was Set." And if it inflicted at least 500, perhaps it can be used for more lulz in StallBurn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Discarding cards is almost never beneficial to your opponent, and can typically be devastating. Fish made a comeback from 0 hand, but that's because they had Formula Synchron. And obviously Infernities could potentially explode after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1300753191' post='5088401'] I find it horrible to be honest. It's somewhat slow, and at most it can be used as a bluff or to discard two or three cards, which can be beneficial to the opponent. I just don't find it appealing / I don't like it. Judging by the name and after reading the effect, I would expect it to be something like "Decrease your opponent's Life Points by ____ for each turn this card was Set." And if it inflicted at least 500, perhaps it can be used for more lulz in StallBurn. [/quote] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080207034321/yugioh/images/3/3c/Wave-MotionCannonCP05-EN-SR.png[/img] Yo. Basically, if you succeed in discarding 2-4 cards from your opponent's hand and they haven't exploded/monsterbackrow'd already, you win the game. That's how epic a well-timed discard is, and is the other half of the power behind the old Sabers. They cut your Life Points and field into a more manageable chunk (read very little and none) and then emptied your hand so you couldn't make a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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