Expelsword Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/8/87/CardShuffleDR1-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Major stall, any real use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Um...Convulsion of Nature? Um...when you put a card on the top of your deck/opponent's deck that you dont want them to get back? No clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 3 Card Trader, 2 of this. Play Ookazi and such, stall for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1301081484' post='5095868'] 3 Card Trader, 2 of this. Play Ookazi and such, stall for game. [/quote] Sadly, there's no way that deck would work online, what with automated "shuffling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ярополк Пономарёв Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Spell Economics. Then you get to stall forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1301081684' post='5095872'] Sadly, there's no way that deck would work online, what with automated "shuffling" [/quote] Which, essentially, makes this another ridiculous deck that only works in tournament play, and probably get you kicked out. Like Yu-Jo FTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Explain how is it supposed to work, burnpsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1301082350' post='5095887'] Explain how is it supposed to work, burnpsy? [/quote] Yu-Jo or Shuffle Stall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Shuffle Stall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1301082350' post='5095887'] Explain how is it supposed to work, burnpsy? [/quote] You burn your opponent for slightly more than you pay for the spell effects, then you spend 5 or so minutes shuffling the deck several times. Block their attacks this turn. Next turn, repeat. Time will eventually be called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1301082478' post='5095897'] Shuffle Stall [/quote] I assume you bring out something like Gravity Bind and then Stall by repeatedly shuffling and win with most LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1301082478' post='5095897'] Shuffle Stall [/quote] Shuffle for a very long time until time limit is up, then use Ookazi. And since your technically changing the order of the cards in the deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well, that's actually... legal, and you're changing the game state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well, you can only do it once per turn, and even if it didn't, you're paying 300 Life Points per activation, which in turn would be a change in state on its own. I'm sure there's an acceptable time limit to shuffling equal to the time it takes to shuffle each others deck before a duel. Any longer would be a little too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1301082885' post='5095921'] Well, you can only do it once per turn, and even if it didn't, you're paying 300 Life Points per activation, which in turn would be a change in state on its own. I'm sure there's an acceptable time limit to shuffling equal to the time it takes to shuffle each others deck before a duel. Any longer would be a little too much [/quote] The idea is to have several cards like this in play at the same time, so you can shuffle several times. 3-4 of them should probably do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1301082885' post='5095921'] Well, you can only do it once per turn, and even if it didn't, you're paying 300 Life Points per activation, which in turn would be a change in state on its own. I'm sure there's an acceptable time limit to shuffling equal to the time it takes to shuffle each others deck before a duel. Any longer would be a little too much [/quote] You only use it once, then waste time shuffling once. Problem, is there a ruling on how long you can shuffle? Because if there isn't then this is a perfectly legal d*** move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Anger Level' timestamp='1301081858' post='5095875'] Spell Economics. Then you get to stall forever. [/quote] No good. Economics only lets you skip payment to activate the [u]card[/u], not the card's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ярополк Пономарёв Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1301085626' post='5096017'] No good. Economics only lets you skip payment to activate the [u]card[/u], not the card's effect. [/quote] ...dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Was played in the original Tundo FTK so you could change the card you drew with Convulsion of Nature face up. Was ridiculous with 3 Giant Trunade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100509092050/yugioh/images/archive/0/01/20100526132350!Arkana.png[/img] Convulsion of Nature, mainly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I dunno, if you're using Convulsion of Nature, you'd use Archfiend's Oath instead, right? Dude knows how to shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1301088079' post='5096103'] I dunno, if you're using Convulsion of Nature, you'd use Archfiend's Oath instead, right? [/quote] But this also let's you see your opponent's top card, so you can then pay 300 and shuffle their deck if they're about to draw a powerful card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1301088297' post='5096109'] But this also let's you see your opponent's top card, so you can then pay 300 and shuffle their deck if they're about to draw a powerful card. [/quote] Any time you shuffle the deck with Convulsion of Nature on the field, you shuffle the deck face-down. Once you're done shuffling, then you flip the deck over due to Convulsion of Nature. There will be no stacked shuffling antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1301089827' post='5096154'] Any time you shuffle the deck with Convulsion of Nature on the field, you shuffle the deck face-down. Once you're done shuffling, then you flip the deck over due to Convulsion of Nature. [/quote] I meant you can see the card they're gonna draw next turn, and if it's a powerful one, you can choose to shuffle their deck to try to get a weaker one on top, without looking of course. Or you can do the same to yours if you're gonna draw crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1301089963' post='5096158'] I meant you can see the card they're gonna draw next turn, and if it's a powerful one, you can choose to shuffle their deck to try to get a weaker one on top, without looking of course. Or you can do the same to yours if you're gonna draw crap. [/quote] I see, i see ;o I seem to be getting the wrong idea of things lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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