Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Any non-constructive posts will receive 10% warnings. Possible Decks: [spoiler=Anti Meta] 3 Cyber Dragon 3 Thunder King 2 Doomcaliber Knight 2 Breaker the Magical Warrior 2 Kycoo, the Ghost Destroyer 2 Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo 2 Spirit Reaper -16- 3 Pot of Duality 2 Mystical Typhoon 1 Allure of Darkness 1 Dark Hole 1 Trunade 1 Reborn 1 Nobleman of Extermination 1 Book of Moon -11- 3 Dimensional Prison 2 Solemn Warning 2 Bottomless Trap Hole 2 Dust Tornado 1 Torrential 1 Mirror Force 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Royal Oppression -13- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Lightsworn] 3 Celestia 2 Judgment Dragon 1 Gorz 1 Tragoedia 3 Wulf 2 Lyla 2 Ryko 2 Card Trooper 1 Ehren 1 Aurkus 1 Lumina 1 Jain 1 Garoth 1 Honest 1 Plague 1 Necro Gardna 1 Glow Up Bulb -25- 3 Solar Recharge 2 Mystical Typhoon 1 Monster Reincarnation 1 Dark Hole 1 Reborn 1 Trunade 1 Pot of Avarice 1 Charge of the Light Brigade -11- 2 Beckoning Light 1 Mirror Force 1 Torrential Tribute -4- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Dragunity] 3 Legionairre 3 Dux 3 Phalanx 2 Spirit Reaper 2 Acklys 1 Necro Gardna 1 Glow Up Bulb 1 Leyvaten -16- 3 Ravine 2 Terraforming 2 Cards of Consonance 2 Mystical Typhoon 2 Pot of Avarice 1 Book of Moon 1 Trunade 1 Dark Hole 1 Reborn -15- 2 Warning 2 Bottomless 2 Icarus 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Torrential 1 Mirror Force -9- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Karakuri] 2 Machina Fortress 3 Machina Gearframe 1 Machina Force 3 Nishipachi 2 Nisamu 2 Kuick 2 Saizan 1 Ninishi 1 Haipa 1 Glow Up 1 Unknown Synchron -19- 3 Pot of Duality 2 Instant Fusion 2 De-Synchro 2 Mystical Typhoon 1 Tuning 1 One for One 1 Trunade 1 Dark Hole 1 Reborn -14- 2 Solemn Warning 2 Bottomless 1 Call of the Haunted 1 Mirror Force 1 Torrential Tribute -7- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Fish OTK] 3 Coelacanth 2 LADD 1 Gorz 3 Oyster Meister 3 Fishborg Blaster 3 Swap Frog 2 Treeborn 2 Dupe Frog 1 Ronintoadin 1 Traogedia 1 Snowman Eater -22- 3 Moray of Greed 3 Enemy Controller 3 Pot of Duality 2 Gold Sarc 2 Mystical Typhoon 1 Dark Hole 1 Trunade 1 Reborn -16- 2 DustCrush -2- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Blackwing] 3 BW - Sirocco 1 Dark Armed 3 BW - Shura 3 BW - Bora 3 BW - Blizzard 2 BW - Vayu 1 BW - Gale 1 BW - Kalut 1 Effect Veiler -18- 3 Pot of Duality 2 Mystical Typhoon 1 Trunade 1 Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 Allure 1 Black Whirlwind 1 Book of Moon -11- 2 Icarus 2 Solemn Warning 2 Bottomless 1 Delta Crow - Anti Reverse 1 Dust Tornado 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Torrential 1 Mirror Force -11- [/spoiler] [spoiler=Karakuri Gadgets] 2 Machina Fortress 2 Machina Gearframe 6 Gadgets 3 Saizan 3 Nishipachi 1 Glow Up Bulb 1 Mind Master 1 Psycho Commander -19- 3 Duality 2 Instant Fusion 2 De-Synchro 1 Trunade 1 Pot of Avarice 1 E-Tele 1 Reborn 1 Dark Hole -12- 2 Ultimate Offering 2 Bottomless 2 Solemn Warning 1 Torrential 1 Mirror Force 1 Solemn Judgment -9- [/spoiler] That's what i've got so far. Side Deck will be made once I choose the Deck. If someone can test this for me and tell me the results, i will give 1 +rep NOTE: Money is no issue. So go nuts with fixes (Cept for YCS promos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 You don't need 3 Unknowns in Karakuris. I play: 1 Bulb 1 Unknown 1 Mind Master 1 E-Tele And it does well enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 1 tele with 1 target? mmm, i really don't like that... i was thinking it was overkill -1 unknown +1 tossing up between ultimate offering and something else offering could really work wonders. basically, for a few lp (monsters never being the issue as i always draw them) i could start my buriedo spam fairly easily...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I was talking about Level 1 Tuner lineup. I also play Commander Offering could work, as 1 of Karakuri problems are hands full of monsters that you can do nothing with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I thought you didn't like PoA and 3 Wulfs in LS! Anyway, neg that 3rd Celestia for a Gold Sarco/Solemn Judgment. And in the Anti-Meta, maybe you could -1 Cydra for a Veiler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1301143735' post='5097495'] I was talking about Level 1 Tuner lineup. I also play CommanderOffering could work, as 1 of Karakuri problems are hands full of monsters that you can do nothing with [/quote] My Plant version of this plays Commander. With Ninishi added, I find he isn't necessary. Although, seeing as Ninishi isn't out yet, i can't really say how it'll go. So it's Work in Progress for the moment. If it tests bad, i'm reverting to the Plant Hybrid version [quote name='El-Rrey' timestamp='1301144076' post='5097505'] I thought you didn't like PoA and 3 Wulfs in LS!Anyway, neg that 3rd Celestia for a Gold Sarco/Solemn Judgment.And in the Anti-Meta, maybe you could -1 Cydra for a Veiler! [/quote] I don't, but it's basically how you have to play them with double Trooper. Also, with Beckoning and the extra Trooper, Wulf hasn't been a problem. Although, PoA sometimes is. Might consider Sarc, although i dislike it at 1. I might test Book of Moon. As for the CyDra fix. CyDra baits Warning and Bottomless, which is Anti-Meta's biggest problem. While Veiler does stop alot of stuff..... I already have plenty of it, so it's not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1301144290' post='5097513'] I don't, but it's basically how you have to play them with double Trooper. Also, with Beckoning and the extra Trooper, Wulf hasn't been a problem. Although, PoA sometimes is. Might consider Sarc, although i dislike it at 1. I might test Book of Moon. [/quote] Well, 1 is "the number", you don't need more! Also, you could try Solemn Warning instead of the BoM. P.S: I can test the build if you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Mm... well, i was tempted to playing Warning's actually. Find me room for 1 more and i'll throw 2 into the Deck. and if you could test against some of the top tier Decks at the moment that would be nice. (BW, Drags, Frogs etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 WHY NO FISH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Batterymen, Morphtronics also @first sentence: don't be a f** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Isn't the "beauty" Karakuri going to be out at the same time as Unknown Synchron? Then you could use 3 of both of those along with Machine Duplication for super spam. That was the whole idea I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Well, played 4 times, i used my own Side Deck: Six Sams: 2-1; 2-0 X-Sabers: 2-0 Fish: 2-1 Sams aren't really that though, especially game 2 once you've sided some Puppet Plants. Facing Sabers with this deck is also an easy thing, you don't even need to side against them (anything to side should be Veilers). Fishes give a harder time, once they have a first turn SSD, it's pretty hard to fight back! Overall, i think the deck has a nice flow though a lot of dead hands occur, that's its only problem [s]so just neg a Celestia for a Sarc[/s]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I tested Karakuris. 3 Unknowns clogged like s**t, and you really need Seven Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='El-Rrey' timestamp='1301165683' post='5098069'] Well, played 4 times, i used my own Side Deck: Six Sams: 2-1; 2-0 X-Sabers: 2-0 Fish: 2-1 Sams aren't really that though, especially game 2 once you've sided some Puppet Plants. Facing Sabers with this deck is also an easy thing, you don't even need to side against them (anything to side should be Veilers). Fishes give a harder time, once they have a first turn SSD, it's pretty hard to fight back! Overall, i think the deck has a nice flow though a lot of dead hands occur, that's its only problem [s]so just neg a Celestia for a Sarc[/s]! [/quote] You played a horrible fish player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1301175513' post='5098569'] You played a horrible fish player [/quote] i was thinking the same thing. how come they didn't otk. @ seph choosing a deck now is bad only because of stuff in may and the way people change there style and decks. Plus Konami can just f*** stuff up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1301175513' post='5098569'] You played a horrible fish player [/quote] Yep, he was packing some Mausoleums along with the Fish engine! The best Fish-players either went to Paris or went on a trip so i had to play against what i had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1301146194' post='5097552'] WHY NO FISH [/quote] oh shi-- knew i forgot something. adding fish OTK [quote name='Batteryman ' timestamp='1301155448' post='5097758'] Batterymen, Morphtronicsalso@first sentence: don't be a f** [/quote] your the f** [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1301164743' post='5098033'] Isn't the "beauty" Karakuri going to be out at the same time as Unknown Synchron? Then you could use 3 of both of those along with Machine Duplication for super spam. That was the whole idea I thought. [/quote] she only works once per turn so the entire Dupe mechanic is terrible in Kuris now. so only 1 is essentially needed. [quote name='Battlestorm' timestamp='1301188009' post='5099082'] i was thinking the same thing. how come they didn't otk. @ seph choosing a deck now is bad only because of stuff in may and the way people change there style and decks. Plus Konami can just f*** stuff up [/quote] well, there's only 1 new set and HA04. no new banlist changes (my nats are in July) and most of the format should remain the same. I don't see how it's a bad idea to think of ideas now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 bumps. might add new version of Karakuri's to the Decklist... it's going through testing at the moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Bumps. Cmon guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Kefka~ Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 your BW deck has 6 Bora's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 the pro's play 6. don't you know that...? i also forgot Delta Crow like a tard.... i'll add that in now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 You have x3 Fortress Dragons in Anti-Meta? It could works VS machine decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 yeah, extra has 3 fortress. thats a given. always play number of c-tech = no. of cyber dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Seph it looks like most of your experience and testing is focused on the KR (karakuri) decks - You probably should run what you feel most comfortable with. - You've got to take into account the annual wild card factor... i.e. konami always releases a set just before nationals that breaks the metagame. I haven't scrutinized extreme victory very closely but your answer on what to run lies in that booster release. If you are going to play to have fun then run the Anti Meta deck for the fun of it. If you want to focus purely on tournament performance you need the deck you currently have the most experience playing with. think about it - which one have you built a flexible side deck and you know how to respond to the current meta with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 i've got experience with all the Decks, i really don't care about how comfortable they are. more looking for consistency. and at the moment, Blackwings are looking like the Deck....... 4-1 friday, 5-0 and won top 8 saturday. time to test today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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