Resident Fascist Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 [Dumbass Proofing]For those that are stupid or don't watch the anime, the Machine Emperors Came In Parts. Top Guard Attack Carrier Machine Emperor ____ ∞ and a core for easy summoning. [/Dumbass Proofing] Discuss if the TCG/OCG Versions had been released like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Basically the anime versions made as much sense as the Armor cards. Though it is nice that the 'Cores' Special Summon said Machine Emperor from the hand, deck, or Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1304777312' post='5193174'] Basically the anime versions made as much sense as the Armor cards. Though it is nice that the 'Cores' Special Summon said Machine Emperor from the hand, deck, or Graveyard. [/quote] But It was nice how you could upgrade them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Future Destruction (Mirai Hakai) badassness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Grannel Guard is ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd really like that idea. Konami doesn't seem to want to do monsters in parts other than Exodia (Valkyrion, Gate Guardian, etc don't count the same way) Baloon's Armor Deck ("Yugioh DM 4th season/Orichalcos") was like the prototype. Well about the theory. There's pro and con in here. You need to have 5 different pieces in your Deck. If you draw just 1 piece before the Core, the core becomes less of a gain, needs Level 1 support to get the Core fast enough, and self-destroying effects for the Core to work. Its really going to be a challenge to build. It still would be awesome to have gotten the piece versions instead. It could have had the same effects as the bigger versions but since there are 5 parts, more effects could fit in each Machine Emperor. [i]Anime Related:[/i] Also, I didn't like the Duel Aporia debuted in. I was expecting an epic Duel from Luciano, Placido, and Jose, only to find out that they let themselves be defeated on purpose just for some irrelevant strategy (seriously they could have just lost normally after making a bigger individual effort and they still would've gained the Counters). In addition, I noticed that all pieces were Level 1 monsters, that then could be exchanged for Level 3s and up to Level 5 pieces after that, I imagined the possibility of a super cool-looking Machine Emperor full of level 10~12 pieces and overpowered effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1304778266' post='5193215'] I'd really like that idea. Konami doesn't seem to want to do monsters in parts other than Exodia (Valkyrion, Gate Guardian, etc don't count the same way) Baloon's Armor Deck ("Yugioh DM 4th season/Orichalcos") was like the prototype. Well about the theory. There's pro and con in here. You need to have 5 different pieces in your Deck. If you draw just 1 piece before the Core, the core becomes less of a gain, forcing Magical Mallet for consistency and Level 1 support to get the Core fast enough, and self-destroying effects for the Core to work. Its really going to be a challenge to build. It still would be awesome to have gotten the piece versions instead. It could have had the same effects as the bigger versions but since there are 5 parts, more effects could fit in each Machine Emperor. [i]Anime Related:[/i] Also, I didn't like the Duel Aporia debuted in. I was expecting an epic Duel from Luciano, Placido, and Jose, only to find out that they let themselves be defeated on purpose just for some irrelevant strategy (seriously they could have just lost normally after making a bigger individual effort and they still would've gained the Counters). In addition, I noticed that all pieces were Level 1 monsters, that then could be exchanged for Level 3s and up to Level 5 pieces after that, I imagined the possibility of a super cool-looking Machine Emperor full of level 10~12 pieces and overpowered effects. [/quote] Placido Didn't stand much chance because Jack had Scar-Red Nova Dragon on the field, Wisel can't absorb it. They have almost nothing but Machine emperor parts in their decks. More Machine Emperor Peices? *Goes to make them* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1304778465' post='5193224'] Placido Didn't stand much chance because Jack had Scar-Red Nova Dragon on the field, Wisel can't absorb it. They have almost nothing but Machine emperor parts in their decks. More Machine Emperor Peices? *Goes to make them* [/quote] but it Luciano himself clarified after loosing, that they were just letting themselves be defeated for the sake of Jose's plan. It really wasn't satisfying to hear. Placido also was about to go out of control (like he often does) when Jose reminded him of the plan. Placido didn't seem all that happy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1304778850' post='5193239'] but it Luciano himself clarified after loosing, that they were just letting themselves be defeated for the sake of Jose's plan. It really wasn't satisfying to hear. Placido also was about to go out of control (like he often does) when Jose reminded him of the plan. Placido didn't seem all that happy either. [/quote] That's because Placido is Badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Since you brought it up, sleepy... Lucciano losing on purpose was the most disappointing thing imaginable for me. Skiel was my favorite Machine Emperor and it got OWNED. Lucciano's deck focused on setting up the team strategy (he had Infinite Prison and Infinite Spirit Machine). Compared to how he easily deflected both Rua and Ruka at the same time and beat them, I thought him being crushed so easily was an insult to Skiel/himself. He even complained that their strategy was stupid. Placido could have beaten Jack. Jack had 1100 LP and Placido had Bomb Blast. Episode 108 established the effect inflicted 400 per monster level of one Machine (Wisel Guard 3) while Jose's duel said it dealt 400 per machine, up to 3 (Wisel...any 3 pieces). However, if he did, Crow would kick Wisel to the curb with absurd ease and Jose wouldn't have Placido's Bomb Blast to bring out Granel easily. Unless the WRGP rules say that even if a player loses during their own turn, the turns proceed as normal, Placido beating Jack would be foolishly selfish and end up just getting them beaten. I do think Lucciano b****ing about Placido using the Set Burn cards (1 being PLACIDO'S card) was petty as hell, since during the entire duel, Team New World has to deal with their S/T zones being clogged and Placido isn't likely to just keep cards in his hand and do nothing. Jose didn't let himself be defeated. Plan 1 was to get Grannel up to 12000 ATK and Jose to 12000 LP. The duel with Team New World was in fact, all about Jose, the only member to never duel. This annoyed me because while Jose was epic, it was at the cost of Skiel, Lucciano, and Placido. Placido was also the only one who thought Yusei was a threat. Sure enough, Yusei topples Granel in just 2 turns and dropped Jose down to a reasonable chunk of LP. I consider Aporia's debut (episode 135) to be the best episode in the series on raw epicness. 136 was a bit less epic and felt like Yusei was making crap up too much. Sure, Aporia was totally using OPed cards and effects, but Yusei responded too much in kind. Now, on the topic of the Machine Emperors being 5 pieces. They become pathetic. They destroy themselves when a Machine Emperor isnt on the field, and roughly half of them dont have effects. They are awesome in the anime and in RPs, though, but just plain weak in RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Konami didn't release them as they were in the anime because it was too much cards and would require 1 booster per Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 You get a 4000 beater with Solidarity, and a Deck thinner, and absorbing Synchros is a plus, but still, the fact the parts but Wisel Infinity itself gets destroyed if an Infinity is not face-up is pretty lame. Anyways, I tried this in TF5, Solidarity, Machina Armored Unit, and Limit Reverse makes him epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Much more abusable in pieces. And surprisingly consistant - tested in tag force. But, we all knew Konami would leave them as one card. Makes much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Dralcax Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, the core was a step up from Exodia, 'cause the Heart of the Cards turned out to be a lame excuse for Yugi being extremely lucky. But, don't you think the Machine emporers are a bit overpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 [quote name='Chaos Bakugan' timestamp='1304816586' post='5194628'] Well, the core was a step up from Exodia, 'cause the Heart of the Cards turned out to be a lame excuse for Yugi being extremely lucky. But, don't you think the Machine emporers are a bit overpowered? [/quote] The future Yliaster came from was ruined, obviously to Complete the Infinity Circuit faster and save the future, they needed to have the strongest cards possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Note that the Machine Emperors were only truly effective against Synchro monsters. Granel even completely relied on either high LP or an absorbed Synchro to be remotely threatening (Granel Attack, Top, and Guard all have Synchro-dependant effects). Also, Granel was the only Machine Emperor that didn't have the "Once per turn, absorb a Synchro monster" effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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