Racism

[Legokun]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
You haven't addressed my point. Because of my Pastafarian beliefs, I am offended by all threads that involve the letter "q". Therefore, I will bicker to moderators and report every thread that has the letter "q" in its title. I find it wholly unfair that these people can offend me in such an extreme way, and I will not tolerate it.

It's not [i]my fault[/i] that some retard on this forum can't deal with a thread being made about a song entitled "Nigga (x7)". It's stupid to lock a thread because it was offensive. We've had threads about WWII and Hitler and Nazis (btw, Godwin's Law), and I'm sure some Jewish guy out there got angry, but at least he didn't have a fit over it. It makes no sense, and no one has provided a [i]valid[/i] reason why the thread was locked. Profanity? No, we have rap songs every other thread in Music. Offensiveness? We have songs with the letter "q" in Music.
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I lol'd.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
It makes no sense, and no one has provided a [i]valid[/i] reason why the thread was locked.[/quote]

The reason why your thread was locked is because the whites are wholly the antagonists, are not victims at all, they should be ashamed because of it, and they are in the wrong to take exception to blacks venting about what whites did to them.

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
Profanity? No, we have rap songs every other thread in Music. Offensiveness? We have songs with the letter "q" in Music.
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Except that it isn't profanity at all, they've a right to be pissed off. You don't. The letter "q" hasn't skullfucked any hopes you might have of a reasonable standard of living and/or future.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
You haven't addressed my point. Because of my Pastafarian beliefs, I am offended by all threads that involve the letter "q". Therefore, I will bicker to moderators and report every thread that has the letter "q" in its title. I find it wholly unfair that these people can offend me in such an extreme way, and I will not tolerate it.

It's not [i]my fault[/i] that some retard on this forum can't deal with a thread being made about a song entitled "Nigga (x7)". It's stupid to lock a thread because it was offensive. We've had threads about WWII and Hitler and Nazis (btw, Godwin's Law), and I'm sure some Jewish guy out there got angry, but at least he didn't have a fit over it. It makes no sense, and no one has provided a [i]valid[/i] reason why the thread was locked. Profanity? No, we have rap songs every other thread in Music. Offensiveness? We have songs with the letter "q" in Music.
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I'd hate to seem pompous, but I agree more with this person than the moderators who have a compulsion to group up with eachother because of a messed up group of God complexes mixed with fascism and hierarchies and the sort. Which is paradoxical unless you're into Norse mythology or something.

Anyways, the music and Q and such is an adequate example. If he hasn't a right to "offend" them with the title of his topic (Which is a complete excuse to report in the first place, assuming it was), then other people shall not have the right to, as stated, have a topic title with the letter q inside it.

Or other things. I have no sympathy nor effort or whatever.

[Dark]

[i]The reason why your thread was locked is because the whites are wholly the antagonists, are not victims at all, they should be ashamed because of it, and they are in the wrong to take exception to blacks venting about what whites did to them. [/i]

That has nothing to do with a [b]legitimate[/b] thread about a [b]legitimate[/b] song being locked. If anything, I was promoting African-American talent by showing the world this new and upcoming artist.

[i]Except that it isn't profanity at all, they've a right to be pissed off. You don't. The letter "q" hasn't skullfucked any hopes you might have of a reasonable standard of living and/or future. [/i]

They've created the silent law that only a black man can tell another black man he's a "nigga". That's fine, I was not calling any a Negro, I was [b]simply posting a thread entitled "Nigga" because the title of the song contained within the thread was entitled "Nigga (x7)"[/b]. If anyone was offended by the song, that should have no effect on the thread being locked. They should have left the Music forum and spammed in RP for all I care. I did not offend anybody, I was simply trying to post a new piece of music and have people comment on it and its satirical nature.

And why are you bringing standard of living into this? I think you are taking your argument too far, beyond the bounds of what happens in this forum. No one has yet provided me a logical reason as to why my thread was viciously locked. It was a thread within the rules of this forum, correct? What damn rule did I break that reaction was necessary? If you're black and want to pick a fight, go drive up to the artist's house and bust his ass.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1305438959' post='5209534']
The reason why your thread was locked is because the whites are wholly the antagonists, are not victims at all, they should be ashamed because of it, and they are in the wrong to take exception to blacks venting about what whites did to them.
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Also, this is completely ignorant. Completely ignorant. Urg.

Whites? Really?
Not all of us, only the idiots.
And even those idiots are idiots, so their opinion and such should be lesser valued, but they'd never know because they're idiots.


And other things. You shouldn't let secconds of courage mess something up.
I don't know why I said that. Just go on.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Dark']
That has nothing to do with a [b]legitimate[/b] thread about a [b]legitimate[/b] song being locked. If anything, I was promoting African-American talent by showing the world this new and upcoming artist.[/quote]

But your subsequent rant in your "defense" about said legitimate topic about how stupid blacks and hispanics are and how wonderful the KKK is provided the notion that you had alternative intentions and that because of them it can be reasoned that your thread wasn't legitimate in the first place.

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305439896' post='5209547']
Also, this is completely ignorant. Completely ignorant. Urg.

Whites? Really?
Not all of us, only the idiots.
And even those idiots are idiots, so their opinion and such should be lesser valued, but they'd never know because they're idiots.


And other things. You shouldn't let secconds of courage mess something up.
I don't know why I said that. Just go on.
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You just happened to have been the beneficiary of those "stupid whites" and their decisions while the victimized blacks suffered horribly. Isn't that right?

[Dark]

[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1305440011' post='5209551']
But your subsequent rant in your defense about said legitimate topic about how stupid blacks and hispanics are and how wonderful the KKK is provided the notion that you had alternative intentions and that because of them it can be reasoned that your thread wasn't legitimate in the first place.
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When the hell were my KKK comments ever related to the locked thread?

The locked thread was immediately dropped after the first two or three posts until post number 13 when Opalmoon responded.

And - hold on, this is the big one, so pay attention - in post 21 where I responded, there were two sections to the post. The section above the quote, and the section below. The section above the quote is where I was trying to act like a member of the KKK and made up some bullshit statistics, but the last paragraph was pretty legitimate. Ready? The section [b]below[/b] the quote was my response to Opalmoon's post. The section below the quote was the only thing in that post referring to the locked thread.

In post 22, you quoted two of my sentences or paragraphs and responded. But both of them were above the quote in post 21, thus implying that they were not related to the thread at all. My arguments that black people are stupid and that they are uneducated and that they have small brain volumes (which are all repetitions of each other) had nothing to do with my arguments that my thread should have never been locked.

My thread was created so I could introduce a new form of music and display an upcoming African-American artist. If you think my intent was to offend somebody, how does your "thought" warrant in a punishment to me? You have no proof, and you are just going on a silly hunch with little logic backing it up.

[b]To reiterate[/b], arguments made against black people were, first of all, sarcastic, and second of all, wholly unrelated to the locked thread. Would you like to rethink your reason as to why my thread was locked?

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1305440011' post='5209551']
You just happened to have been the beneficiary of those "stupid whites" and their decisions while the victimized blacks suffered horribly. Isn't that right?
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Absolutely not. Don't assume that part until you know more than my username here and a few more points on my profile, of which I think you don't care to read.

Also, it feels as though you think I promote those "stupid whites" and their superficial words. I couldn't do that.

Why would I benefit from that in the first place? There's no benefit from racism. You're simply being self-righteous while, as before, using those seconds of courage drive you instead of your head.

I should order these lines better. Would you like to help?

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Dark']
To reiterate, arguments made against black people were, first of all, sarcastic, and second of all, wholly unrelated to the locked thread. Would you like to rethink your reason as to why my thread was locked?

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Your thread in Music lacked a sufficient level of shame and respect for the benefits you've reaped from the suffering of the songwriter's culture. It isn't appropriate for an ex-Nazi to promote Jewish music, for the ex-Nazi has done something unforgiveable and must be grim and silent while the Jewish people promote their own culture. In the same light, because you're the beneficiary of black suffering, it's inappropriate for you to pretend as though you aren't, make nice with them, blend into their culture, and use their slang.

The thread was a faux pas even without the psychotic raving. But the psychotic raving didn't help.

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305440619' post='5209567']
Absolutely not. Don't assume that part until you know more than my username here and a few more points on my profile, of which I think you don't care to read.

Also, it feels as though you think I promote those "stupid whites" and their superficial words. I couldn't do that.

Why would I benefit from that in the first place? There's no benefit from racism. You're simply being self-righteous while, as before, using those seconds of courage drive you instead of your head.

I should order these lines better. Would you like to help?
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You and I inherited very nice places in the shadow of a tyrannical empire. Don't think that being Canadian negates any shame you or I should feel for the evil we're the products of. How 'bout them Inuits up north with suicide rates among the highest in the world that your great-grandpop drove into reserves? Canadians use the same conflict tantalum-packed iPads, Samsung phones, and Wiiware as the Americans. The clothes we wear are moisturized with Bangladeshi tears.

[.Corgi]

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305439240' post='5209538']
I'd hate to seem pompous, but I agree more with this person than the moderators who have a compulsion to group up with eachother because of a messed up group of God complexes mixed with fascism and hierarchies and the sort. Which is paradoxical unless you're into Norse mythology or something.
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So, it isn't paradoxal unless your'e into Norse mythology? RACIST/STERIOTYPE GUY/FUCKHEAD WARNING! Offending an almost dead religion in an anti-rasicm post? What are you, some kind of failtroll?

But seriously, the dudes from Iraq in my class firetruckin' needs to be sent to KKK... They come to the beautiful land of Sweden, and think they can be racist against us? Thats just lol.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1305441858' post='5209583']
You and I inherited very nice places in the shadow of a tyrannical empire. Don't think that being Canadian negates any shame you or I should feel for the evil we're the products of. How 'bout them Inuits up north with suicide rates among the highest in the world that your great-grandpop drove into reserves?
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Yes, yes. I still like Canada.

My grandfather sells clothing, actually. Works pretty hard to.
My grandmother is from Morocco. That is, you know, in Africa. That whole half could be off.
Well, my step-father is, too, but that doesn't matter.
But you meant my great-grandfather, though. I don't know what he did. I could very well ask, but the answer may not satisfy your arguments and such.

Inuits (Which are a branch of Amerindians) spread around everywhere, of course. Amerindians were the first to populate the Americas. It is pitiful how, even the ones who ended up as Incas or Aztecs all the way down ended having themselves captured and assimilated by Europeans. Or killed, or whatever may have happened. You probably know as well.

Did you really check my profile to see I'm Canadian, or is it blatantly obvious?

[quote name='Firetruck' timestamp='1305442786' post='5209596']
So, it isn't paradoxal unless your'e into Norse mythology? RACIST/STERIOTYPE GUY/FUCKHEAD WARNING! Offending an almost dead religion in an anti-rasicm post? What are you, some kind of failtroll?

But seriously, the dudes from Iraq in my class firetruckin' needs to be sent to KKK... They come to the beautiful land of Sweden, and think they can be racist against us? Thats just lol.
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Nuuu.

Odin, for example, had more power than Thor even in mythology. There is obviously hierarchy.
Come on, you should know that.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305443243' post='5209599']
Yes, yes. I still like Canada.
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You shouldn't. It's an evil country that leeches off the misery of the unfortunate, voted in a Harper majority, and ought not to exist.

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305443243' post='5209599']
Did you really check my profile to see I'm Canadian, or is it blatantly obvious?
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You bring it up every other topic. The vast majority of countries don't play their anthems through their schools' PA systems every morning. Ringing "O Canada WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE" into our heads every morning will eventually turn us into paranoid xenophobes. Who are we guarding Canada from?

[Tourmaline]

My school does not do that, however.

I still do like the country, though. Your recommendations are null. There are no personal conflicts, I just enjoy where I am right now. The government in general is evil, anyways. You may dub our country evil, but there isn't a single, pure country out there, either. All opinion, though. Free to argue against subjections.

We're guarding our country from non-pacifists, because Canada would be a manipulative snake, with your opinion.

[Catterjune]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
You haven't addressed my point.
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Your point is offensive topic shouldn't be moderated. If you can't see why that's a ridiculously stupid opinion to hold then I feel sorry for you.

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305438229' post='5209529']
Because of my Pastafarian beliefs, I am offended by all threads that involve the letter "q". Therefore, I will bicker to moderators and report every thread that has the letter "q" in its title.
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Go ahead.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

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hi guys im a white mage

[The Amazing Avian]

Some white guy talked to me in Fail-Spanish and I answered back in perfect English, made him look like a dumbass in front of some other white people. Stupid racists.

[Dark]

[i]you've reaped[/i]

Never owned a slave, don't plan on owning one for quite a long time.

[i]It isn't appropriate for an ex-Nazi to promote Jewish music[/i]

I don't find that to make any logical sense, but let's assume that is a universal law. How can the correlation be made from an ex-Nazi to me? I never owned a slave, and nobody in my family ever owned slaves. I may have indirectly benefitted from slavery at one point or another, but then [i]everybody[/i] has.

[i]must be grim and silent while the Jewish people promote their own culture[/i]

That's retarded. You are restricting me from making a thread about a song I find to be quite well-composed because I should let African-Americans post that thread instead? I can [b]assure[/b] you that even if Ghost Origins posted that thread it would eventually be locked, because some retard would find it offensive. Nobody asked any offended person to click on that thread. There is something called skipping over a thread and ignoring it.

I'm fine with African-Americans promoting their own culture (if you even want to call that song "culture"), but that shouldn't be imposed as a restriction on me saying I [i]can't[/i] also do the same thing.

[i]it's inappropriate for you to pretend as though you aren't, make nice with them, blend into their culture, and use their slang[/i]

You act like every single person that was once a beneficiary of black suffering is automatically a white supremacist extremist that likes to bomb black churches and destroy black people and misuse the word "Negro". Nobody is blending into their culture. You could consider [modern] rap music a predominantly African-American "culture", but people who listen to it aren't trying to become black.

And using their slang is the worst argument I've ever heard. I don't care how derogative "nigga" is as a word (and note that I don't say it in public), because African-Americans call themselves it all the time. Online, and you'll know this if you've seen some of my posts, I call black people and white people and brown people and red people and blue people niggas all the time. I use it as a term of endearment moreso than a term of insult. And if people are offended by that, they can go bring it up to a moderator and either ban it from use completely or allow it completely. It's unfair to every non-African-American person to refuse them the right to use a word that is perfectly legal in society.

Also, by your logic, we should lock every single thread in Music that has the word "nigga" in it because someone might find it offensive. It's not [i]my[/i] problem that African-Americans find white people using the word offensive but not black people. That is their decision entirely and they should not reprimand others because they are too retarded to realize that they create more hype about the word by acting out.

[i]Your point is offensive topic shouldn't be moderated. If you can't see why that's a ridiculously stupid opinion to hold then I feel sorry for you.[/i]

Why should an offensive topic be moderated when someone being offended is completely subjective? I can understand topics about adult content and topics that lead to "bad" discussions should be locked, but why offensive topics?

I'd like to point you to my Always thread in Music. It sounds very homosexual, the lead singer of the group is homosexual, and it is in a game about Robot [i]Unicorns[/i]. Should that topic be locked because some member(s) from the LGBT crowd wants to lock it? They could very well be offended and think that I was posting that thread with the clear intent of making fun of the LGBT crowd. And that relates to how apparently some African-American was offended by thinking I was posting the Nigga thread with the clear intent of ridiculing African-Americans. Both of those thoughts are wholly false.

[i]Go ahead. [/i]

But unlike my thread, those "q" threads won't be locked. How is that justified?

[Mehmani]

But wait, if you blame all white people for the slavery of Africans then aren't you just generalizing based on the colour of their skin? The very thing that was campaigned so fervently against and continues to be campaigned against? It would be fine to say something along those lines in the 19th century or even 1940s/50s America, but in an age where 99.9% of people are not openly racist it is a ridiculous thing to say and a terrible statement to make. It is equivalent to blaming all Hispanic immigrants for overcrowding, for example. Due to personal experiences, I find anyone asking me a question that starts in "Would you like to..." quite disturbing (it's a long story) but I don't go around requesting that no one ever speak those words around me.

The point that Dark is trying to make is that in the aftermath of the Civil Rights movement, blacks have enjoyed the benefits of organizations keen to promote how they give "equal opportunities" and can use the Hate Crime law to their advantage (not that the law is a bad thing, it's a good thing, in fact). Accusing someone of hate crime and/or racism is like accusing them of rape, or even accusing them of being a Communist during the '50s. It has a Crucible effect to it - no matter how far-fetched the accusation it will still spread doubt. I know this because I am quite adept at spreading doubt amongst people. Look at Iago in [i]Othello[/i], notice how subtle his conversations with the titular character were. White people can abuse this McCarthyism effect too - as someone in this thread (I cannot recall who) touched upon, white people are quick to accuse other whites of racism. To ever be accused of saying "n****r" (I have never said it once in real life) can mortally damage your reputation for the rest of your life in some cases.

The stigma surrounding the use of the word is a strange one, and an incorrect one.

Why don't we finish with a quote from Reverend Vernon Johns, a prominent figure of the early Civil Rights movement and in my opinion one of the most eloquent and powerful speakers of all time?:

"I am a boat-rocker."

[Tentacruel]

I'm not even sure what this topic is about anymore.


Oh and Dark, the difference between your thread being locked because of it being offensive and another thread being locked because Pastafarians are offended by the letter "q," is [b]common sense.[/b]

[Dark]

[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1305503233' post='5211397']
I'm not even sure what this topic is about anymore.


Oh and Dark, the difference between your thread being locked because of it being offensive and another thread being locked because Pastafarians are offended by the letter "q," is [b]common sense.[/b]
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Isn't it quite ironic for you of all people to be talking about common sense?

Are you trying to imply that my religious beliefs or the followers of my religion lack common sense? The irony continues.

You make no sense. There is no difference between an [b]offensive[/b] thread and one that [b]offends[/b] people. Stop being a moron.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Mikhail Tal']But wait, if you blame all white people for the slavery of Africans then aren't you just generalizing based on the colour of their skin? The very thing that was campaigned so fervently against and continues to be campaigned against? It would be fine to say something along those lines in the 19th century or even 1940s/50s America, but in an age where 99.9% of people are not openly racist it is a ridiculous thing to say and a terrible statement to make. It is equivalent to blaming all Hispanic immigrants for overcrowding, for example.[/quote]

I'm not blaming current white people for slavery, I'm just pointing out that it's wrong for them to consider themselves superior to black people just because they've inherited better educational opportunities and standards of living than blacks which makes it easier for them to succeed, as this general edge is as a result of slavery. Your analogy's f***ing retarded and leads me to believe that you haven't read anything I've what I'd actually posted.

[quote name='Dark']
Never owned a slave, don't plan on owning one for quite a long time.[/quote]

That isn't a counterargument, it's a nonsequitor. Owning slaves and reaping benefits today over black people as a result of slavery are completely different.

[quote name='Dark']
You act like every single person that was once a beneficiary of black suffering is automatically a white supremacist extremist that likes to bomb black churches and destroy black people and misuse the word "Negro". Nobody is blending into their culture. You could consider [modern] rap music a predominantly African-American "culture", but people who listen to it aren't trying to become black.[/quote]

No I don't, I just act like [i]you're[/i] a white supremacist because of your gloating about advantages over blacks and hispanics without observing why you have them, and how horribly wrong you are in doing so.

Any more ludicrously disproportionate analogies?

[quote name='Dark']
And using their slang is the worst argument I've ever heard. I don't care how derogative "nigga" is as a word (and note that I don't say it in public), because African-Americans call themselves it all the time. Online, and you'll know this if you've seen some of my posts, I call black people and white people and brown people and red people and blue people niggas all the time. I use it as a term of endearment moreso than a term of insult. And if people are offended by that, they can go bring it up to a moderator and either ban it from use completely or allow it completely. It's unfair to every non-African-American person to refuse them the right to use a word that is perfectly legal in society.[/quote]

I'll agree that it's unfair to an extent that you can't use the word in said context, but you must also acknowledge that it's much less unfair than how certain people were treated in the time of its being used solely for derogatory purposes. Ergo, your bitching's petty and insignificant. The worst bitching I've ever heard as a matter of fact.

[quote name='Dark']
Why should an offensive topic be moderated when someone being offended is completely subjective? I can understand topics about adult content and topics that lead to "bad" discussions should be locked, but why offensive topics?[/quote]

Because it isn't completely subjective. If it were, one would expect the same reaction to "How's the weather, Sally?" as to "I'M GONNA RAPE YOU TILL YOU BLEED TO DEATH WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT BECAUSE I HATE YOUR CULTURE", but obviously this isn't the case.

[Tourmaline]

Ah, yes. Polaris, you're, again, so self-righteous. So much to the point that you're pious if it was in this subject, rather than religion.

Which is where the point of the message comes. No point in arguing with him if all he's doing is saying "Your analogy/subjections are stupid and you're a moron."

Continue if you wish, though.
I probably will sound foolish, but would you mind summarizing what you think I was trying to say yesterday, Polaris?

[Tentacruel]

[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1305506389' post='5211559']
Isn't it quite ironic for you of all people to be talking about common sense?

Are you trying to imply that my religious beliefs or the followers of my religion lack common sense? The irony continues.

You make no sense. There is no difference between an [b]offensive[/b] thread and one that [b]offends[/b] people. Stop being a moron.
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This was probably the most predictable response I've seen yet. Sure, I'm a religious moron who believes rational thought is evil. Whatever. I grow tired of trying to be civil with you. I shudder to think that you might actually talk to people like this in real life.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

[quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1305509461' post='5211791']
Ah, yes. Polaris, you're, again, so self-righteous. So much to the point that you're pious if it was in this subject, rather than religion.

Which is where the point of the message comes. No point in arguing with him if all he's doing is saying "Your analogy/subjections are stupid and you're a moron."

Continue if you wish, though.
I probably will sound foolish, but would you mind summarizing what you think I was trying to say yesterday, Polaris?
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If I were to say in response to the above post "What you're saying is the equivalent of telling us you want the holocaust re-enacted." that analogy's both extreme and has nothing to do with what you said. Such an analogy should be credited in full as the bullshit that it is.

What you're actually saying doing though is criticizing my post's tone while ignoring my arguments and supplying none yourself. Which, while not telling us you want the holocaust re-enacted, is still bad.

"Your analogy/subjections are stupid and you're a moron." isn't all I'm saying in the least, RTFP.

[Tourmaline]

[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1305515114' post='5212081']
If I were to say in response to the above post "What you're saying is the equivalent of telling us you want the holocaust re-enacted." that analogy's both extreme and has nothing to do with what you said. Such an analogy should be credited in full as the bullshit that it is.

What you're actually saying doing though is criticizing my post's tone while ignoring my arguments and supplying none yourself. Which, while not telling us you want the holocaust re-enacted, is still bad.

"Your analogy/subjections are stupid and you're a moron." isn't all I'm saying in the least, RTFP.
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I'd hate the holocaust re-enacted, you know. More than most people here, for sure. But I do know it is an analogy, so it is only example.

What I said about quoting you was definitely wrong. It is only a majority of the posts that seem like they're saying that.

I think you're wrong about your interpretation, though. Only that I'm not supplying arguments myself is what I find to be true because I'm not trying to create arguments. I'm trying to convince you that I'm not a beneficiary. The last post was more of telling people to stop arguing, because this is eventually just going to get locked.

I also wonder why you originally thought I was a beneficiary, even though you may still think so. If you could read my post correctly, perhaps you could see I was against their prejudice and such. Why don't you quote that post you eagerly falsified?