Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307031460' post='5248828'] don't call them retards, I know some retards and they're way cooler than these guys [/quote] ITT: YCM goes off topic. How cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827'] Yet Brionac has only screwed me over like twice in 3 Months? Dark Hole has screwed me over more. [/quote] Dark Hole's supposed to screw you over [b]if you're being bad[/b], it's designed to discourage you from overextending lol. [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827'] We could just ban it for a single format and see how it goes, if the meta gets better after, leave it there. If not, bring it back to one. There's a slight flaw with that though. [color="#FF0000"]Konami[/color].[/quote] Heavy Storm [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827'] Oh no, I've been insulted over the internet! It's the end of the world! [/quote] I kno rite [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031542' post='5248830'] ITT: YCM goes off topic. How cliche. [/quote] idk, I regret saying that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GOD OF OBELISK Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Gaia Knight, Force of the Earth is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307031633' post='5248832'] Heavy Storm [/quote] Heavy Storm was a overkill card used to end games. It had no cost for a complete Backrow wipe. If you have nothing set, or use it on the second turn, immediately before you set anything; It's a Harpies Feather duster. That Card should stay @0 for all eternity. [quote]Dark Hole's supposed to screw you over, it's designed to discourage you from overextending lol.[/quote] I didn't say that it wasn't designed to screw you over. Brionac is practicially the only card that can safely get rid of some of the more annoying synchros. In the case of Shi En, you can either try to synchro into something bigger, try to lure the foe into negging some destruction effect, then use another, but it can be stopped by Magatama. Brionac can safely and efficiently Bounce Shi En. If Brionac was banned, Shi En would need to be hit on the list to stop it going completely Rampart insane. Same with all the other broken Synchros out there. While Shi En is probably the best example of a broken Synchro, banning a Broken synchro like Brionac would only make some of the Other Broken Synchros worse. Please tell me how to get past a Shi En, Warning Facedown, Magatama Facedown and a Grandmaster [b]WITHOUT[/b] Brionac. I probably said something stupid there, but nevermind. [quote]Gaia Knight, Force of the Earth is better. [/quote] Better in early game, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839'] Heavy Storm was a overkill card used to end games. It had no cost for a complete Backrow wipe. If you have nothing set, or use it on the second turn, immediately before you set anything; It's a Harpies Feather duster. That Card should stay @0 for all eternity.[/quote] You were saying that Konami wouldn't try banning Brionac for a format and seeing how it goes. I gave an example of a long-time limited card where they did exactly that. I'm not talking about whether it's balanced or not. [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839'] I didn't say that it wasn't designed to screw you over.[/quote] k, what I said needs to be qualified tho. *edits* [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839'] Brionac is practicially the only card that can safely get rid of some of the more annoying synchros. In the case of Shi En, you can either try to synchro into something bigger, try to lure the foe into negging some destruction effect, then use another, but it can be stopped by Magatama. Brionac can safely and efficiently Bounce Shi En. If Brionac was banned, Shi En would need to be hit on the list to stop it going completely Rampart insane. Same with all the other broken Synchros out there. While Shi En is probably the best example of a broken Synchro, banning a Broken synchro like Brionac would only make some of the Other Broken Synchros worse. Please tell me how to get past a Shi En, Warning Facedown, Magatama Facedown and a Grandmaster [b]WITHOUT[/b] Brionac. I probably said something stupid there, but nevermind. [/quote] jfc I mentioned Orient Dragon in my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307033847' post='5248862'] jfc I mentioned Orient Dragon in my first post. [/quote] They flip Magatama. GG Orient Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307034036' post='5248869'] They flip Magatama. GG Orient Dragon. [/quote] Learn to read Orient banishes Magatam stops destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote]They flip Magatama. GG Orient Dragon.[/quote] Go away, retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GOD OF OBELISK Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Gaia Knight, Force of the Earth is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1307034180' post='5248875'] Go away, retard. [/quote] But even then, I said they have warning facedown. I thought Orient Destroyed. I'm a f***ing retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I love how the quote in Invalid Argument's sig is actually a decent change to the list and he thinks its an awful one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1307034439' post='5248883'] I love how the quote in Invalid Argument's sig is actually a decent change to the list and he thinks its an awful one. [/quote] Except the fact that Giant Trunade is ok@1. But Librarian needs to be limited. Destiny Draw, wat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307034420' post='5248881'] But even then, I said they have warning facedown. I thought Orient Destroyed. I'm a f***ing retard. [/quote] wtf was the point of the question then I really need to be able to give moar negs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307034665' post='5248888'] wtf was the point of the question then I really need to be able to give moar negs. [/quote] Because they could just Negate Orient's Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307034758' post='5248893'] Because they could just Negate Orient's Summon. [/quote] as they could brionac what are you on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307034626' post='5248887'] Except the fact that Giant Trunade is ok@1. But Librarian needs to be limited. Destiny Draw, wat? [/quote] Trunade pushes for OTKs, which are bad for game Destiny Draw should go back to 2, it wasn't that broken, and @1 it makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Klavier Gavin' timestamp='1307034924' post='5248901'] Trunade pushes for OTKs, which are bad for game [/quote] But it's Ok at 1. I've never been OTK'd directly because they bounced all my backrows :s [quote]as they could brionac what are you on[/quote] Read my post next time, what are you on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Trunade is not okay at 1 you idiot. It should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1307035174' post='5248908'] Trunade is not okay at 1 you idiot. It should be banned. [/quote] If that's the case, we should ban everything that promotes a OTK. Because they are "Bad for the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307035260' post='5248910'] If that's the case, we should ban everything that promotes a OTK. Because they are "Bad for the game" [/quote] That's kinda the idea hahahahahahha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 following on from IA's idea, i know what we can do, we should (and we don't have to) make a list of cards that are "bad for the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='~Burning Soul~' timestamp='1307035569' post='5248922'] following on from IA's idea, i know what we can do, we should (and we don't have to) make a list of cards that are "bad for the game" [/quote] I can bet that Shi En will show up on the list. Or I have a better Idea... We could make a YCM banlist or something. *Inb4listofforbiddencardsis3pageslong* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307035005' post='5248903'] Read my post next time, what are you on [/quote] So in your scenario, Brionac was on the field before Warning was set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307035754' post='5248926'] So in your scenario, Brionac was on the field before Warning was set? [/quote] *Smashes head of table* They have a Shi en, warning facedown, and something else facedown(D-Prison?) Is there any Logical way out of that situation, other than Brionac or Luring? By logical, I mean something that doesn't require like 5+ cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307035885' post='5248930'] *Smashes head of table* They have a Shi en, warning facedown, and something else facedown(D-Prison?) Is there any Logical way out of that situation, other than Brionac or Luring? By logical, I mean something that doesn't require like 5+ cards. [/quote] So Brionac's already on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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