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[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827']
<_< Yet Brionac has only screwed me over like twice in 3 Months? Dark Hole has screwed me over more.
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Dark Hole's supposed to screw you over [b]if you're being bad[/b], it's designed to discourage you from overextending lol.

[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827']
We could just ban it for a single format and see how it goes, if the meta gets better after, leave it there. If not, bring it back to one. There's a slight flaw with that though. [color="#FF0000"]Konami[/color].[/quote]

Heavy Storm

[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031414' post='5248827']
:( Oh no, I've been insulted over the internet! It's the end of the world!
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I kno rite

[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307031542' post='5248830']
ITT: YCM goes off topic. How cliche.
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idk, I regret saying that now

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[quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307031633' post='5248832']
Heavy Storm
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Heavy Storm was a overkill card used to end games. It had no cost for a complete Backrow wipe. If you have nothing set, or use it on the second turn, immediately before you set anything; It's a Harpies Feather duster. That Card should stay @0 for all eternity.

[quote]Dark Hole's supposed to screw you over, it's designed to discourage you from overextending lol.[/quote]

I didn't say that it wasn't designed to screw you over.

Brionac is practicially the only card that can safely get rid of some of the more annoying synchros. In the case of Shi En, you can either try to synchro into something bigger, try to lure the foe into negging some destruction effect, then use another, but it can be stopped by Magatama. Brionac can safely and efficiently Bounce Shi En. If Brionac was banned, Shi En would need to be hit on the list to stop it going completely Rampart insane. Same with all the other broken Synchros out there. While Shi En is probably the best example of a broken Synchro, banning a Broken synchro like Brionac would only make some of the Other Broken Synchros worse. Please tell me how to get past a Shi En, Warning Facedown, Magatama Facedown and a Grandmaster [b]WITHOUT[/b] Brionac. I probably said something stupid there, but nevermind. <_<


[quote]Gaia Knight, Force of the Earth is better. [/quote]

Better in early game, you mean.

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[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839']
Heavy Storm was a overkill card used to end games. It had no cost for a complete Backrow wipe. If you have nothing set, or use it on the second turn, immediately before you set anything; It's a Harpies Feather duster. That Card should stay @0 for all eternity.[/quote]

You were saying that Konami wouldn't try banning Brionac for a format and seeing how it goes. I gave an example of a long-time limited card where they did exactly that. I'm not talking about whether it's balanced or not.

[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839']
I didn't say that it wasn't designed to screw you over.[/quote]

k, what I said needs to be qualified tho. *edits*

[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307032018' post='5248839']
Brionac is practicially the only card that can safely get rid of some of the more annoying synchros. In the case of Shi En, you can either try to synchro into something bigger, try to lure the foe into negging some destruction effect, then use another, but it can be stopped by Magatama. Brionac can safely and efficiently Bounce Shi En. If Brionac was banned, Shi En would need to be hit on the list to stop it going completely Rampart insane. Same with all the other broken Synchros out there. While Shi En is probably the best example of a broken Synchro, banning a Broken synchro like Brionac would only make some of the Other Broken Synchros worse. Please tell me how to get past a Shi En, Warning Facedown, Magatama Facedown and a Grandmaster [b]WITHOUT[/b] Brionac. I probably said something stupid there, but nevermind. <_<
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jfc

I mentioned Orient Dragon in my first post. :huh:

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[quote name='Loki el Señor de los Aesir' timestamp='1307034439' post='5248883']
I love how the quote in Invalid Argument's sig is actually a decent change to the list and he thinks its an awful one.
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Except the fact that Giant Trunade is ok@1. But Librarian needs to be limited. Destiny Draw, wat?
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[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307034626' post='5248887']
Except the fact that Giant Trunade is ok@1. But Librarian needs to be limited. Destiny Draw, wat?
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Trunade pushes for OTKs, which are bad for game
Destiny Draw should go back to 2, it wasn't that broken, and @1 it makes no sense
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[quote name='Klavier Gavin' timestamp='1307034924' post='5248901']
Trunade pushes for OTKs, which are bad for game
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<_< But it's Ok at 1. I've never been OTK'd directly because they bounced all my backrows :s


[quote]as they could brionac

what are you on[/quote]

Read my post next time, what are you on

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[quote name='~Burning Soul~' timestamp='1307035569' post='5248922']
following on from IA's idea, i know what we can do, we should (and we don't have to) make a list of cards that are "bad for the game"
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I can bet that Shi En will show up on the list. Or I have a better Idea... We could make a YCM banlist or something.

*Inb4listofforbiddencardsis3pageslong*
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[quote name='marcher boyz' timestamp='1307035754' post='5248926']
So in your scenario, Brionac was on the field before Warning was set? :huh:
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*Smashes head of table*

They have a Shi en, warning facedown, and something else facedown(D-Prison?)

Is there any Logical way out of that situation, other than Brionac or Luring? By logical, I mean something that doesn't require like 5+ cards.

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[quote name='Invalid Arguement' timestamp='1307035885' post='5248930']
*Smashes head of table*

They have a Shi en, warning facedown, and something else facedown(D-Prison?)

Is there any Logical way out of that situation, other than Brionac or Luring? By logical, I mean something that doesn't require like 5+ cards.
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So Brionac's already on the field? :huh:

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