kristoferjm Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1310503836' post='5349192'] Actually I try not to be harsh unless the guy REALLY gets on my nerves [/quote] Yea, instead you just give horrible advice and a terrible rating from your pointless rating system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 See ZombieDeath98, it's people like these that get on my nerves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1310504031' post='5349205'] ok the reason why at times I give so low is because others would give somewhere around the 0/10 mark. I still try to give higher to encourage [/quote] Yes and there's nothing wrong with that. Encouraging members to stay and make more cards is a Great thing but sometimes if they really want to know their mistakes and how they can be better just tell them your full opinion and criticisms whilst trying to encourage them, that way both encouraging them and making them better members. Edit: Well of course since someone doesn't like what rating you have given him he always reacts as an annoying person (trying to avoid swear words) and thinks he's better than you. Then you can give him all your ratings and tell him what you really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristoferjm Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310504213' post='5349218'] Yes and there's nothing wrong with that. Encouraging members to stay and make more cards is a Great thing but sometimes if they really want to know their mistakes and how they can be better just tell them your full opinion and criticisms whilst trying to encourage them, that way both encouraging them and making them better members. Edit: Well of course since someone doesn't like what rating you have given him he always reacts as an annoying person (trying to avoid swear words) and thinks he's better than you. Then you can give him all your ratings and tell him what you really think. [/quote] Is it encouraging people to stay? Maybe, but it also encourages people to make mediocre cards because someone gives them a good rating, they don't think they need to improve. Honestly, activity is nice, but quality work is better. [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1310504141' post='5349215'] See ZombieDeath98, it's people like these that get on my nerves [/quote] Of course anyone who disagrees with you gets on your nerves, that's why you give everyone good ratings, so no one disagrees with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Okay then honestly would you like it better if we had many members because of people like ragnarok's encouragements or would you rather have YCM made from 30 experienced members just because Bad Ratings scared other people away? People learn over time. People Grow and become more comprehensive of their actions and cards. It's better we have Members take years to become experts that to have 30 already made experts just improving themselves? It's more fun with more people around. That's what most people need to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310504838' post='5349277'] Okay then honestly would you like it better if we had many members because of people like ragnarok's encouragements or would you rather have YCM made from 30 experienced members just because Bad Ratings scared other people away? . [/quote] It's called [b]CONSTRUCTIVE[/b] Criticism. So a healthy mix of both. Assuming you understand how the "constructive" part works anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1310504936' post='5349285'] It's called [b]CONSTRUCTIVE[/b] Criticism. So a healthy mix of both. Assuming you understand how the "constructive" part works anyway. [/quote] Yes but it wouldn't be better if all the members went around giving 0s and 1s all the time to other members. That wouldn't work either. That's why some people like to give low marks and criticize on one's cards and others are there to encourage them, balancing things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristoferjm Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310504838' post='5349277'] Okay then honestly would you like it better if we had many members because of people like ragnarok's encouragements or would you rather have YCM made from 30 experienced members just because Bad Ratings scared other people away? People learn over time. People Grow and become more comprehensive of their actions and cards. It's better we have Members take years to become experts that to have 30 already made experts just improving themselves? It's more fun with more people around. That's what most people need to understand. [/quote] Not everyone is as weak minded as you seem to think, give them a little more credit. Too many people already can't take criticism, and you are only reinforcing that. When ole' rags makes a stupid comment, the only thing it does is confuse people, even ones who made good cards, and when he sits there and goes up and down the thread listing, and mass comments on everything, his rates get worse and worse. EDIT: [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1310504936' post='5349285'] It's called [b]CONSTRUCTIVE[/b] Criticism. So a healthy mix of both. Assuming you understand how the "constructive" part works anyway. [/quote] This is what I was saying, zombie and rags. You don't have to be a dick to people, but you can't be this nice with ratings all the time either. Help them learn, and sometimes you may have to make a few enemies doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='kristoferjm' timestamp='1310505068' post='5349298'] Not everyone is as weak minded as you seem to think, give them a little more credit. Too many people already can't take criticism, and you are only reinforcing that. When ole' rags makes a stupid comment, the only thing it does is confuse people, even ones who made good cards, and when he sits there and goes up and down the thread listing, and mass comments on everything, his rates get worse and worse. [/quote] That may be true but he can't go around giving as i said in my previous post 0s and 1s everywhere. If he wants to make other members happy it's his right. And other members can criticize the cards all they want. He should be able to do whatever he wants to do without anyone objecting to his ways. Edit: And i'm not saying criticism is a bad thing but only for people who want to do it. I for an example do fix people's OCG and give them ideas on how to improve their cards but then i give a mark such as 6/10 or 7/10. I want to point their mistakes without hurting their feelings. It's called being nice and please don't use the D-word it isn't appropriate for this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310505242' post='5349306'] That may be true but he can't go around giving as i said in my previous post 0s and 1s everywhere. If he wants to make other members happy it's his right. And other members can criticize the cards all they want. He should be able to do whatever he wants to do without anyone objecting to his ways. [/quote] If I may, I would suggest you looking in a different light. See, Ragnarok is setting them up to fall harder. That's what I really have against his ratings. As he keeps giving them false advice and misleading them into thinking they're good, they're going to just set themselves up for when the people who know what they're doing decide to comment and give them 0s and 1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Okay since you all say so fine but i am not going to start giving 0s and 1s to everyone. As i said i like to point out people's mistakes but be nice about it. I was never arguing that Criticism is a bad thing; I only find it bad when someone insults you while doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310505522' post='5349329'] Okay since you all say so fine but i am not going to start giving 0s and 1s to everyone. As i said i like to point out people's mistakes but be nice about it. I was never arguing that Criticism is a bad thing; I only find it bad when someone insults you while doing it. [/quote] It's called harsh criticism, and you've got to learn to live with it. Some people only know (or want) to criticise other peoples works that way. It might a bad thing, but that's not the point here. The point that was made here was that Ragnarok doesn't give people any constructive criticism, [i]at all[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitysqrd Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Morphtronics recieve bad reps because of their low ATK but they're not bad. I thought of a killer stratigy to get this guy out, but it takes luck Summon Scopen, use his effect to Special Cellphon then use that Cellphon's effect to special antother Morphtronic let's say Slingen. Use a card that changes Scopen to defense so it's Lv 4 and use Slingen Cellphon and go for 9 and Summon this guy. Would use it if it was real. I appologie if I seemed rude earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='Power Play' timestamp='1310514499' post='5349757'] It's called harsh criticism, and you've got to learn to live with it. Some people only know (or want) to criticise other peoples works that way. It might a bad thing, but that's not the point here. The point that was made here was that Ragnarok doesn't give people any constructive criticism, [i]at all[/i]. [/quote] Okay then from now on i'll give nothing but constructive criticism but do i have to be harsh whilst doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310546422' post='5350810'] Okay then from now on i'll give nothing but constructive criticism but do i have to be harsh whilst doing it? [/quote] You aren't being "constructive" if you must differentiate between harsh and kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1310576748' post='5351591'] You aren't being "constructive" if you must differentiate between harsh and kind. [/quote] So in other words what you're all trying to say is either be harsh or the other members you are commentating on will never learn? if that's the case ok i'll be harsh but not for any other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varionius Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Artwork: 10 - Wow. No comment needed. Balance: 7 - The first effect is overpowered. Lore (Effect) : 8 - Standard ATK/DEF position effect, but the effects are cool. OCG (Official Card Grammar): 9 - No mistakes, but the zeros for bullets don't look good, you should replace it with "-". How it all Fits Together: 8 - Makes a cool looking card. Card (The Average of the all Above): 8.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310583053' post='5351835'] So in other words what you're all trying to say is either be harsh or the other members you are commentating on will never learn? if that's the case ok i'll be harsh but not for any other reason. [/quote] Im saying be neither harsh nor sympathetic. Motivate them with proper criticism. Weigh the pros and cons of what you see, do not be blunt but do not be a hushpuppy, but motivate at the same time. A perfect shade of gray, leaning towards optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='ZombieDeath98' timestamp='1310583053' post='5351835'] So in other words what you're all trying to say is either be harsh or the other members you are commentating on will never learn? if that's the case ok i'll be harsh but not for any other reason. [/quote] This isn't an arguement about being harsh, it's about not babying people. Don't just tell somebody their card is good just because you want them to stay on the site. If they can't stand that you think their card is mediocre, they shouldn't be posting their cards in a place that rates cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDeath98 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1310591271' post='5352347'] Im saying be neither harsh nor sympathetic. Motivate them with proper criticism. Weigh the pros and cons of what you see, do not be blunt but do not be a hushpuppy, but motivate at the same time. A perfect shade of gray, leaning towards optimism. [/quote] Okay then i'll try to do that from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neos the Ancient Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Wow, when did this giant fight break out in the Replies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Neos the Ancient' timestamp='1310834999' post='5360575'] Wow, when did this giant fight break out in the Replies? [/quote] Right now. Well, I was scrolling through today's active topics and this one was a Hot, so I decided to take a look. Yea, card looks great, getting into constructive criticism, okay...and then a flame fight breaks out? Maybe that's what todays "Hot" Topic is... [quote]You aren't being "constructive" if you must differentiate between harsh and kind.[/quote] You're also not very bright, either. =( [quote]Im saying be neither harsh nor sympathetic. Motivate them with proper criticism. Weigh the pros and cons of what you see, do not be blunt but do not be a hushpuppy, but motivate at the same time. A perfect shade of gray, leaning towards optimism.[/quote] Hey, we have something in common. That's how I do all my posts. Like for example, before this flame fight broke out... The card itself would make a great edition for Morphtronic Decks. I can't stand PTD for the fact that it's slightly OPed. But then again, this one seems a bit OPed because of it's ability to recycle Scopen and Boomboxen, for example. With this, you could potentially have 3 PTDs out on the field at once. To me, that rings the OP bell. Have we gotten back on track yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 [quote name='Neos the Ancient' timestamp='1310834999' post='5360575'] Wow, when did this giant fight break out in the Replies? [/quote] This was exactly why I stepped out now, you going to update this thread soon or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neos the Ancient Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1310840797' post='5360784'] Right now. Well, I was scrolling through today's active topics and this one was a Hot, so I decided to take a look. Yea, card looks great, getting into constructive criticism, okay...and then a flame fight breaks out? Maybe that's what todays "Hot" Topic is... You're also not very bright, either. =( Hey, we have something in common. That's how I do all my posts. Like for example, before this flame fight broke out... The card itself would make a great edition for Morphtronic Decks. I can't stand PTD for the fact that it's slightly OPed. But then again, this one seems a bit OPed because of it's ability to recycle Scopen and Boomboxen, for example. With this, you could potentially have 3 PTDs out on the field at once. To me, that rings the OP bell. Have we gotten back on track yet? [/quote] Hmm... maybe I should change it's effect from changing Battle Positions of 2 cards to 1 other card and itself. I sort of implied people would use it on itself and another card. Thanks for your opinions.[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1310857694' post='5361333'] This was exactly why I stepped out now, you going to update this thread soon or not? [/quote] Well excuuuuuuse me Ragnarok.[quote name='infinitysqrd' timestamp='1310503029' post='5349128'] There aren't any level 6 Morphtronics, they are all lvl 4 or lower. Cool card though. [/quote] This is for possible future Morphtronic cards, if they make any Lv6 or Lv5 Morphtronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNS productions Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 that monster looks way to strong to have 2000 atk points (where did you get that pic its bad ass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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