CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/6/63/ChaosNumber39UtopiaRayORCS-JP-UR.png[/img] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [center][center] [/center][/center] [left][left] [/left][/left] [left][left] [quote] [color=#000000]3 Level 4 LIGHT monsters If you control "Number 39: Utopia": You can Xyz Summon this card by using that monster as an Xyz Material. If you have 1000 Life Points or less: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to target 1 monster your opponent controls; until your End Phase, this card gains 500 ATK and that target loses 1000 ATK.[/color] [/quote][/left][/left] [left][left] [/left][/left] [left][left]its requirement seem to have 2 options either 3 level 4 monsters or 1 Utopia look like it's easy to summon but the bad part is you can't use its effects unless you have 1000 LP or less!! D: Discuss its worth ppl [/left][/left] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Not worth the Extra Deck space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316492326' post='5527945'] Not worth the Extra Deck space. [/quote] Its equip begs to differ. It's a 4400 Battle Phase effect negating beater for a Bunny + a Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 It's much better due to Zexal Weapon, but needs its own deck to truly function due to the fact its effect can only be used when you're about to lose. This card is going to suck in regards to DN's programming. You cannot Overlay other Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1316493088' post='5527960'] Its equip begs to differ. It's a 4400 Battle Phase effect negating beater for a Bunny + a Unicorn[/quote] I keep on forgeting about that weird equip monster thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I just think 1000 or less LP is just drastic, it's like "your health is dangerously low" i just dunno what to think of it.... well on the bright side it it doesn't have Utopia's drawback and it get bonuses from Zexal Weapon :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1316493088' post='5527960'] + a Unicorn [/quote] This OT: I have a doubt about the card. So does that mean you have to have all 3 materials and Utopia's overlay is an extra not counting towards the 3 materials stated? I don't see the word "instead" and I still see the 3 materials need Levels soooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1316494131' post='5527984'] OT: I have a doubt about the card. So does that mean you have to have all 3 materials and Utopia's overlay is an extra not counting towards the 3 materials stated? I don't see the word "instead" and I still see the 3 materials need Levels soooo... [/quote] IDK, but Darkwolf/Evilfusion's theoretical says it can use JUST Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1316494131' post='5527984'] This OT: I have a doubt about the card. So does that mean you have to have all 3 materials and Utopia's overlay is an extra not counting towards the 3 materials stated? I don't see the word "instead" and I still see the 3 materials need Levels soooo...[/quote] it's giving 2 options as it seem you can summon it without utopia on the field as 3 level 4 monsters or if you have Utopia you can use i as its material + whatever that utopia have left of materials as it seem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 =0 Thanks people, I got the effect now. So regular Utopia is used instead of all 3 materials. Like what happened in the anime now that I think of it. The part were it gains Utopia's materials too might or might not become a rule it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 That's just what I [b]think[/b] the wording is supposed to mean. You can either use 3 Level 4 Light (so not worth that investment) or you can Xyz Summon using Utopia only, and "using that monster as an Xyz Material" simply means that you Overlay this on top of Utopia and its Overlay Units. If you remember that the physical method of Overlaying is stacking cards on top of each other, that makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1316497258' post='5528072'] That's just what I [b]think[/b] the wording is supposed to mean. You can either use 3 Level 4 Light (so not worth that investment) or you can Xyz Summon using Utopia only, and "using that monster as an Xyz Material" simply means that you Overlay this on top of Utopia and its Overlay Units. If you remember that the physical method of Overlaying is stacking cards on top of each other, that makes perfect sense. [/quote] yes and the 3 Level 4 LIGHT( wtf i didn't see this coming) doesn't worth it, leave that to other numbers :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='.:Corbenik:.' timestamp='1316497397' post='5528076'] yes and the 3 Level 4 LIGHT( wtf i didn't see this coming) doesn't worth it, leave that to other numbers :/[/quote] Especially since it's effect lets you summon it for 2 Lv 4 monsters of any Attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugia61617 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 IDK, I'm getting a feeling Konami will say Utopia loses its materials, otherwise CNo.39 would be incredibly OP'd when your LP is low. EDIT: Argh, ninja'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Well, it might mostly be just Utopia as the sole material which either requires you to run multiple Number 39 to ensure you have one, or protect your Number 39, otherwise you'd have to use a bunch of monsters for it. Also, Reborn -> Utopia -> Chaos Number 39 has merit. I just don't see any practical usage to them saying you'd have to use a Rank 4 Xyz + 2 more monsters to bring this out. And because you can just drop this in exchange for Utopia, that balances out the LP restriction before using its extremely good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1316498790' post='5528094'] Well, it might mostly be just Utopia as the sole material which either requires you to run multiple Number 39 to ensure you have one, or protect your Number 39, otherwise you'd have to use a bunch of monsters for it. Also, Reborn -> Utopia -> Chaos Number 39 has merit. I just don't see any practical usage to them saying you'd have to use a Rank 4 Xyz + 2 more monsters to bring this out. And because you can just drop this in exchange for Utopia, that balances out the LP restriction before using its extremely good effect. [/quote] well i'll say this: it's not gonna be easy to use its effect as well it's at the point where you have to risk even more in very low LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 ... I'm not seeing where this is all that great... Could someone point me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='sbdnate' timestamp='1316511086' post='5528216'] ... I'm not seeing where this is all that great... Could someone point me in the right direction? [/quote] Zexal Weapon - Unicorn King Spear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Still not seeing where it is all that great... Unless Megamorph is involved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 >Chaos >uses a pony >reverse nerf DO WANT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 [quote name='sbdnate' timestamp='1316511337' post='5528222'] Still not seeing where it is all that great... Unless Megamorph is involved... [/quote] And it's also pretty useful, as you can overlay Utopia and its materials as soon as they become useless, and then it becomes powerful via Unicorn, and finally a meh-sorta-good effect when your Life Points are low (DANGER! DANGER!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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