LiquidDJ11 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I am creating this thread in light of Raine's argument last night. his arguement was very convincing. i might post it later, but for now, i want to know what you think. Do you Believe in Good and Evil? if so, explain why. If you do not, explain why not. This should get interesting. No hating or flaming of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't believe that there is Good and Evil in the world. There are simply people who makes good choices and benefit everyone as a whole, and there are the people that make.....less good choices. There is no "pure" good or "pure" evil. Even the kindest person in the world must have done at least one thing wrong in his life, and the same goes for the person on the other side of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 I do believe there is good and evil... I believe people do things that can benefit and others can do things that hinder... I believe Good and Evil must be in balance to keep society under control... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 [color=#696969][font=verdana,geneva,sans-serif]Good and evil are both very vague words; what does one truly consider to be 'good' or 'evil'? It all depends from that persons point of view. You have al-Qaeda, for example. We see them as 'evil' for perpetrating the attacks on the World Trade Center, but do they think they are evil for doing so? No, they probably think that they are doing the right thing. They may see themselves as heroes or something. They are the 'good' in their point of view, with us being evil, hence the attacks. It's all really vague.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Vague words indeed, Lunar. But, do you know why Al Qaeda attacked us? It was not evil at all in my opinion. But my knowledge of good and evil are the same as everyone else. No one truly knows what is good or what is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 As Dante v. Nero said, nothing is purely good or evil. It is in that fashion that morality is confusing. Even the most good of deeds have some evil consequences. The only thing we can do is just do what we believe is right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='ZeroChill' timestamp='1317524969' post='5554192'] Even the most good of deeds have some evil consequences. [/quote] This is true and in my view Hitler is the best example of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 There is no such thing as evil. Take me for example as a whole. Do you think killing criminals and bad people and creating a new world with only the nice people whom I choose is evil? I may be wrong, or [s]THAT KIRA IS JUSTICE[/s] right, but it's up to the opinion of people which leads into morality. And when I mentioned the people whom I choose, they may be chosen by my own personal opinion which is good and evil which is bias. That's why we never say a criminal or terrorist is evil in public reports. It's all libel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 There's no good or evil, just divergent interests~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Dante v. Nero' timestamp='1316885616' post='5537120']I don't believe that there is Good and Evil in the world. There are simply people who makes good choices and benefit everyone as a whole, and there are the people that make.....less good choices. There is no "pure" good or "pure" evil. Even the kindest person in the world must have done at least one thing wrong in his life, and the same goes for the person on the other side of the spectrum.[/quote] I only disagree in that you suggest that because there is not "pure" good and "pure" evil in the world, there is no good or evil. There is definitely good and evil in the world, but the problem is that good and evil seem to suffer from Newton's Third Law of Motion, that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Every good action done has evil consequences as well as good consequences. The same for evil actions. It also means anything that can be used for great good can be used for great evil and vice versa, which is part of the reason we have to be careful with what technology we create. Take guns, for example. On the one hand, guns can both be used for protection and harm, depending on the hands of the person using it. Money is another good example of this. Money can be used to aid the needy or gain power over them. There is good and evil in the world, but they seem to be inseperable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of Calamity Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1318818315' post='5583201'] There is good and evil in the world, but they seem to be inseperable. [/quote] However what is "Good" and "Evil" are only a persons individual opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Good and evil IS vague, but is based on the people's opinion. "Everybody's a critic." works perfect in almost any debate. Say, I shot somebody. One person says that is evil, but they have yet to hear my side of the story. He killed my family, he got me in the shoulder, and he broke a priceless vase. I chased him and got him with a Smith and Wesson. Then that would be right. But it could still be thought of as wrong by people. Good and Evil are as pointless as Yin and Yang, Black and White. Fictional uses to describe things in life that happen because of one's actions. The two sides of each mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Seeing things in a Black/White view is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I only mentioned Black and White solely because it is a denomination of the terms "Good" and "Evil" brought by "Yin" and "Yang". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah, the Good and Evil are all really down to perspective. Personally, I think there is good and evil, but when it comes to humans, no human can be purely good, nor evil. Evil deeds might be done for noble causes, and that's really where the line is removed. But you have to think, if something evil was done for a noble cause, then the noble cause would have ben for the undoing of another evil, wouldn't it? So from there on it all just unravels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [color=#008080][b]There's no good and evil except in perception. Good and evil does not exist. It is perception that frames reality. Good and evil is based on perception, therefore the perception of good and evil depends on the one perceiving it. [/b][/color] [color=#008080][b]-Friedrich Nietzsche[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 ^This, but within perception they're very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [img]http://www.iep.utm.edu/wp-content/media/Nietzsche-274x300.jpg[/img] Fred spent most his time trying to dispel perceptive beliefs to justify that s*** job he did with his hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 When you stare at the abysmal mustache, it stares back at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 "good and Bad" are mere illusions to our existence, and vary from person to person. I.E.: Most of us think Hitler was crazy.(I do) and therefore evil. but to him and his supporters, they were doing the world a favor. So in conclusion good and evil do not exist as a concrete concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous00 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 good and evil are entirely relative ideas. What is good for one person, may not be good for another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Good goes with yin and y.. So as bad/evil etc, we humans ourselves will always forget so we are forgetful..it would come to something as that just as destory comes down to create it's very true..so you think killing is bad well ask around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I actually do believe in good and evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1333403060' post='5899275'] I actually do believe in good and evil. [/quote] then what you believe is what works and what does not work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Oh what the hakumen, I'll post here. Just hope I don't waste my breath. While it is true that Good and Evil are abstract concepts that are determined by the individual, it does not function that way and cannot work that way until we revert back to the days where countries didn't exist but instead were territories. And we all know that that just simply will not happen, society has evolved far further than to isolate itself in such a manner. So instead, Good and Evil must be redefined with relatively few flexible aspects to them but great enough of a bend to benefit the individual not just the world the individual resides in. So what is Good one may ask? Throughout history it has kept one constant sound, one constant beat, a slightly erratic one not unlike the heartbeat of a Time Lord for those of you familiar with Doctor Who. It may be seen as obscure, unjustified and wholly manipulative. In others it is seen as a grace of light to guide people to something better, foregoing their own opinions and desires to reach the goal of the new Good. Yet regardless of anything opinionated, the sound it constantly radiates is that it is [i]doing something to keep order, or free something or someone to benefit it or the society it is within the most[/i]. You may freely change the slight tone, but it would change nothing. However I would remain aware of that distinction for the moment. How can one define Evil?, another may retort. But yet like Good it has another sound that is always there no matter who says it. That it is [i]doing something to destroy order, to penalize or manipulate somethiing to benefit the person who has taken the action the most[/i]. A subtle if slightly longer definition yes, but entirely what it implies regardless of who happens to be defining them. Even in such flexible terms. So are they really that open to interpretation? Hardly... Now do I believe in Good and Evil? Absolutely. Do I believe that what I do on a regular basis is a good thing? Wholeheartedly. Do I believe that what I'm doing is selfish? No... but viewpoints can and rightfully see it as so. We all just have to be open to misunderstandings and work together on it, not justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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