Premier Alexander Romanov Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [center][center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111005023638/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a5/SacredSheratanDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredSheratanDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004202121/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a6/SacredDabaranDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredDabaranDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg[/img][/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/1/1e/SacredGrediDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredGrediDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004202314/yugioh/images/thumb/9/98/SacredPolluxDT13-JP-DRPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredPolluxDT13-JP-DRPR-DT.jpg[/img][/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004210733/yugioh/images/thumb/e/ed/SacredEskaDT13-JP-DRPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredEskaDT13-JP-DRPR-DT.jpg[/img][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004210843/yugioh/images/thumb/b/b1/SacredSpicaDT13-JP-DSPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredSpicaDT13-JP-DSPR-DT.jpg[/img][/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004210350/yugioh/images/thumb/0/09/SacredHyadesDT13-JP-DSPR-DT.png/300px-SacredHyadesDT13-JP-DSPR-DT.png[/img][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/f/f7/SacredPleiadesDT13-JP-DScPR-DT.jpg/300px-SacredPleiadesDT13-JP-DScPR-DT.jpg[/img][/center][/center] [center][center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111005032255/yugioh/images/thumb/6/6d/StarSignoftheSacredDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg/300px-StarSignoftheSacredDT13-JP-DNPR-DT.jpg[/img] [/center][/center] [center][center][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Sacred"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Sacred[/url] [/center][/center] [center][center]Discuss the archetype as a whole.[/center][/center] [center][center]How good are they? Can a good deck be built around the Archetype?[/center][/center] [center][center]And are they really all they are hyped up to be?[/center][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Need. A. Rank 4. Badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1317879162' post='5563613'] Need. A. Rank 4. Badly. [/quote] This. But well, there's Lavalval Chain and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Boring archetype is boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Verz did the job of being good far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｐｌｅｎｄｉｄ ＶＥＮＵＳ' timestamp='1317879162' post='5563613'] Need. A. Rank 4. Badly. [/quote] [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1317891503' post='5563722'] Boring archetype is boring [/quote] [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317894710' post='5563753'] Verz did the job of being good far better. [/quote] Why are the Verz better than this archetype, other than the fact that the Sacred do not have any Rank 4 Xyzs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Reina Soho' timestamp='1317903447' post='5563849'] Why are the Verz better than this archetype, other than the fact that the Sacred do not have any Rank 4 Xyzs? [/quote] Mandrago and Bahamut are far better than any other Sacred card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317903621' post='5563856'] Mandrago and Bahamut are far better than any other Sacred card. [/quote] Is that the only reason? Two cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Try to make both decks are compare their performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317894710' post='5563753'] Verz did the job of being good far better. [/quote] That's a lie. The Verz have little to no synergy at all. The best thing they have is Bahamut with Rabbit. The rest are completely insignificant outside of being discard fodder for Bahamut. [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317903621' post='5563856'] Mandrago and Bahamut are far better than any other Sacred card. [/quote] Pleiades disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Its just that what Verz do is better than what Sacred do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317903955' post='5563863'] Try to make both decks are compare their performances. [/quote] Guess who sucks at making decks, rendering that option useless? [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1317904086' post='5563864'] [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317894710' post='5563753'] Verz did the job of being good far better. [/quote] That's a lie. The Verz have little to no synergy at all. The best thing they have is Bahamut with Rabbit. The rest are completely insignificant outside of being discard fodder for Bahamut. [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1317903621' post='5563856'] Mandrago and Bahamut are far better than any other Sacred card. [/quote] Pleiades disagrees. [/quote] I like you. [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1317904096' post='5563866'] Its just that what Verz do is better than what Sacred do. [/quote] WHY?!? WHY DO VERZ DO WHAT THEY DO BETTER THAN WHAT SACRED DO?!? AND WHY CAN'T I EVER JUST GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER AROUND HERE?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Verz don't do what they do better, what they do is better. Verz: Get Baha to the field and rape face. Pure Special Summoning. Sacred: Normal Summon in order to Special Summon same level from the hand. Subpar mechanic, for a Xyz that isn't as good as Baha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1317904096' post='5563866'] Its just that what Verz do is better than what Sacred do. [/quote] Verz are better at running 5-6 Stratos? And jacking up combos With Pleiades? At Xyz Spamming Rank 4 and 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1317904587' post='5563878'] Verz are better at running 5-6 Stratos? And jacking up combos With Pleiades? At Xyz Spamming Rank 4 and 5? [/quote] Learn to read, that's not what I said. I said that Verz's 'thing' is better than Sacred's 'thing'. I'm not saying it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1317904843' post='5563884'] Learn to read, that's not what I said. I said that Verz's 'thing' is better than Sacred's 'thing'. I'm not saying it again. [/quote] Look at the post time man. I wrote what I did at the same time as your explanation. Chillax dude. And what is this Pure Special Summoning you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1317905070' post='5563888'] Look at the post time man. I wrote what I did at the same time as your explanation. Chillax dude. And what is this Pure Special Summoning you speak of? [/quote] Well, after saying the it more than twice it gets annoying. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Mandrago http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Heliolope http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Bahamut http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Rabbit Basically, the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1317905363' post='5563892'] Well, after saying the it more than twice it gets annoying. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Mandrago"]http://yugioh.wikia....i/Verz_Mandrago[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Heliolope"]http://yugioh.wikia..../Verz_Heliolope[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Verz_Bahamut"]http://yugioh.wikia....ki/Verz_Bahamut[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Rabbit"]http://yugioh.wikia....i/Rescue_Rabbit[/url] Basically, the deck. [/quote] This works when you have to discard Verz monsters for Bahamut's effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1317906223' post='5563895'] This works when you have to discard Verz monsters for Bahamut's effect?[/quote]It works fine when you have to do that, especially if you're playing a Verz Deck and are using Corrosive Contagion Infestation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 INB4THISTHREADSTARTSDEVOTINGITSELFTOHOMESTUCK! OT: Intresting arch-type is intreasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sacreds disappointed me a little. After being teased by the level 5's, I expected more out of them. They still seem fun, but they're not as good as they were hyped up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I built Verz yesterday, in about 20 minutes, and almost beat Plants. Verz have Mandrago, Heliotrope, Bahamut, and their trap. Genes Ally Birdman, T.G. Warwolf, Tour Guide + Sentinel. They actually have a TON of synergy with Mandrago, Zahhak, and Heliotrope, whereas Sacreda have... a Searcher, a boss their archetype isn't even MADE for, and a walking double summon. =/ Verz = Spam archetype Sacred = Slow, normal summon archetype that is way too level based, and doesn't get effects when SSd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Archetypes can start out slow but end up meta. Give them time, they might improve to surpass the Verz, and by the same token, by making Verz already have an abusable engine to begin with, they might be seen as "overpowered" and as such get pathetic cards in the next set. Sometimes you have to look at things from both the short term [i]and[/i] the long term perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1317910366' post='5563951'] I built Verz yesterday, in about 20 minutes, and almost beat Plants. Verz have Mandrago, Heliotrope, Bahamut, and their trap. Genes Ally Birdman, T.G. Warwolf, Tour Guide + Sentinel. They actually have [b]a TON of synergy with Mandrago, Zahhak, and Heliotrope[/b], whereas Sacreda have... a Searcher, a [b]boss their archetype isn't even MADE for,[/b] and a walking double summon. =/ Verz = Spam archetype Sacred = Slow, normal summon archetype that is way too level based, and doesn't get effects when SSd [/quote] What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 The trap gives them te synergy they need. You turn a dead Heliotrope in for a Mandrago or Zahaak. Or a Zahaak for Mandrago. Or whatever. Sacreds have a rank 5 that their archetype only has 2 members that make it, and a meh Rank3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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