Chaos Pudding Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Ｈorus' timestamp='1321710679' post='5652410'] If they're gonna ban this they might as well ban the other 1000 cards that are breaking the meta more and have an infinitely larger impact on how we play. [/quote] Um... ok? As long as those cards are actually broken and not just appearing broken as a product of the meta they're being used in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Chaos Pudding' timestamp='1321711929' post='5652431'] Um... ok? As long as those cards are actually broken and not just appearing broken as a product of the meta they're being used in. [/quote]BLS is a prime example. Konami don't need to ban this now. It [i]is[/i] banworthy, but not in this format. Konami don't ban things based on potential, but rather impact, which is why Future Fusion, a 1 card FTK, is not banned, because it doesn't see enough play. Cards don't appear broken, they are broken in that format. Give me an example of a card that "appears" broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Ｈorus' timestamp='1321712235' post='5652441'] Cards don't appear broken, they are broken in that format. Give me an example of a card that "appears" broken. [/quote] ... brionac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Brionac IS broken. It's not just an appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1321729752' post='5653005'] ... brionac [/quote] For a beginner, Brionac is not broken. You're basically -1ing yourself for every card you bounce. But of course the normal players don't see it, or use it, like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'd argue that Brionac would be perfectly acceptable in a better format but that's just me :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Why does everyone b**** about the meta? It's so much better than the giant pile of s*** we just moved away from in September... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 What kind of format would make Brio acceptable? It was doing insane OTK shenanigans from its release.[quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1321730189' post='5653043'] Why does everyone b**** about the meta? It's so much better than the giant pile of s*** we just moved away from in September... [/quote] I can agree with this. I'm just noting that some cards do deserve to be banned even though we're not in the March 2011 format anymore. Brio has all those loops, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Haven't had this card used on me once this format. Can someone say power creep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1321730289' post='5653046'] I can agree with this. I'm just noting that some cards do deserve to be banned even though we're not in the March 2011 format anymore. Brio has all those loops, too. [/quote] Which will be banned in March 2012. What I don't get is why people b**** so much about essentially 2 cards that should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1321730213' post='5653046'] What kind of format would make Brio acceptable? It was doing insane OTK shenanigans from its release. [/quote] A format where said OTK shenanigans are impossible and/or very difficult. Brionac on its own doesn't cause any problems, just accentuates problems that are already bad and should be dealt with before Brio himself. also this card isn't used this format because there aren't many DARK decks with good Graveyard control aside from DWs, who need to cut back on potential dead draws regardless. DAD himself is still probably among the most broken monsters out there, it's just not his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I don't think DAD is really all that big a deal anymore, he's fine at 1, IMO. We no longer see things like TeleDAD or Return DAD and Twilight is hilariously inconsistent in most cases. He still is a great asset when summoned but he's more of a bonus than a goal/need for most decks that run him these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Remember back when we though DAD was as broken as Judgment Dragon? I always loved comparing those two, since JD has easier summoning conditions and less cost for a bigger destruction effect. Anyways, DAD is definitely not broken. He's annoying, and would be more annoying at 2, but he's a dead draw late-game and is relatively easy to come back against early-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Didn't this card used to be over $200.00? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1321737497' post='5653407'] Didn't this card used to be over $200.00? [/quote] yes it did, heck i remember when OCG had it as a Rare in PTDN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1321729752' post='5653005'] ... brionac [/quote] ... nope.jpg It's broken and deserves to be banned. [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1321730445' post='5653073'] A format where said OTK shenanigans are impossible and/or very difficult. Brionac on its own doesn't cause any problems, just accentuates problems that are already bad and should be dealt with before Brio himself. [/quote]A format without OTKs is odd to say when Brionac exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Could you explain or are you just going off the 'common knowledge' that Brio is banworthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hadouken made a pretty good explaination about this card, I'll get him to post it if you really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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