Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Is that a problem?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 You're the one looking stupid here, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Everyone can just agree GKs are autopilot so yeahh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Please. Explain how I am supposedly humiliating myself. I was trying to lead into asking you if you could help me fix my deck. But you then had to go and start being all egotistical. I just wanted some help. Is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Charlotte The Witch' timestamp='1323894773' post='5706776'] Because I was going to ask you nicely until you decided to be all egotistical towards me! But I guess not, so I will ask: WHY ARE YOU AND MOST OF THE OTHERS JERKS?!? Why does it seem like the only person on this section of this forum who has a kind bone in their bodies is evilfusion?!? WHY DO YOU FRUSTRATE ME SO MUCH?!?!? [/quote] I consider it a very interesting phenomenon. You may have heard of it. It's called "unentitled superiority complex" It happens when a person, after shedding his or her original inexperience, gets it in their mind that they are simply smarter than another person or persons. Over the internet, being anonymous is implied, and thus they have little reprocussion for acting a certain way. Unlike in real life and face-to-face interaction, after you have thoroughly ruined any chance of friendship with someone, you don't have to worry about them punching you in the face or constantly interacting with you on a daily basis, like in school hallways or the local bar. Therefore, the person can, with little consequence, tear into someone for no reason aside from trying to demonstrate or insist that they are somehow superior. This is especially prominent when it comes to knowledge and opinion. I will note that because DN is download-less, that nearly everyone has access to it unless they specifically do not want to. As for me, I have few social outlets and I find little amusement or joy from putting people down, and am capable of acknowledging that I am not perfect and can make mistakes. Therefore, I use my intelligence and knowledge not to make myself look better (that's an indirect effect, though), but to help other people. This type of social transaction gives me that sense of ego that the Unentitled Superiority Complex (USC) people must get through bullying, and shows me as a normally nice, helpful individual. And you seem to be encountering the USC person's favorite weapon: Trolling because it gets a reaction. Your frustration and reactions feed the compulsive need to feel superior. As a side note, you can tell when I feel someone else is being an a**hole, because I make posts like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Er, evilfusion, as flattered as I am, I have a superiority complex irl too. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1323895450' post='5706811'] As a side note, you can tell when I feel someone else is being an a**hole, because I make posts like this. [/quote] In other words, Tristan should probably stop sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1323895075' post='5706797'] You're the one looking stupid here, not me. [/quote] I strongly disagree with this. OT: Duality a Ryko, then proceed to set something else. OH YEAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1323895731' post='5706823'] In other words, Tristan should probably stop sometime soon. [/quote] You say that after I've stopped anyway. I realise I might've taken my bit of fun too far, but can you blame me when the opportunity was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1323895838' post='5706831'] You say that after I've stopped anyway. I realise I might've taken my bit of fun too far, but can you blame me when the opportunity was there? [/quote] Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1323895690' post='5706818'] Er, evilfusion, as flattered as I am, I have a superiority complex irl too. Just saying. [/quote] Really? How sad. That's in no way a defense for your behavior in this topic. Stop. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1323895906' post='5706835'] Really? How sad. That's in no way a defense for your behavior in this topic. Stop. Seriously. [/quote] I'm not claiming it as a defence, whatsoever. However, I am somewhat insulted that you call a predisposition I can't change about my personality sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 eh. to be honest, Tristan was pretty right here anyway. Despite being a lovable little arse <3 If you dead draw in a deck like Inzektors, it is probably wrong. Inzektors are mathematically linear, and there's probably a few perfect builds out there which have very little dead draws at all. Also: [quote]Who said anything about dueling? [/quote] [quote]The context was MY DECK ON DUELING NETWORK!!! I was asking to see if you could help me[/quote] Cannot think of any other way of 'helping' apart from dueling. So... Tristan wins. Unless you actually meant deck fixes in which any rightful person would have posted it on YCM rather than trying to persuade someone to use their time to go to DN in order to see the deck. Which is actually not possible without uploading the deck somewhere anyway. OT: Psychology? Player-player interaction, mind games, smokescreens, pokeface.jpg, blahblah. Pretty much it in YGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Anyways, back on track, how does online play not help with bluffing, as you and your opponent can't see each other's faces, so, logically, it should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Charlotte The Witch' timestamp='1323896504' post='5706855'] Anyways, back on track, how does online play not help with bluffing, as you and your opponent can't see each other's faces, so, logically, it should? [/quote] The point is that you want your opponent to see your face so you can bluff if needed. And it's needed a lot of the time. And you can read your opponent's expressions. Encourages player-player interaction. If you're online, bluffing is near non-existent. Think of a way to bluff online then you can continue with logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Telling your opponent a card is something, but be truthful about the card. Then, tell your opponent another card is something, but lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 When I say 'sad', I mean 'unfortunate', not 'pitiful'. [quote name='Charlotte The Witch' timestamp='1323896504' post='5706855'] Anyways, back on track, how does online play not help with bluffing, as you and your opponent can't see each other's faces, so, logically, it should? [/quote] It's a two-way road. If I Set a card in real life, my body language or other reaction might clue you in that I am either nervous (bluffing) or confident/excited (not bluffing). However, I could reverse those reactions too, and seem confident as I set my bluff and nervous when I throw down my Mirror Force. On-line, you can't see anything. You have no way to know how your opponent is acting or reacting to anything. You can't see a tell and they can't mislead you with a tell. It's easier to attack without fear against an opponent you can't see, because there's no way to read them one way or the other. And most people bluff to dissuade a certain action, so online, bluffs don't really work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 But what Charlotte said about telling your opponent the cards you have to bluff later (which totally ninja'd me ) actually works better online because it isn't obvious that you're lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1323896919' post='5706874'] When I say 'sad', I mean 'unfortunate', not 'pitiful'. It's a two-way road. If I Set a card in real life, my body language or other reaction might clue you in that I am either nervous (bluffing) or confident/excited (not bluffing). However, I could reverse those reactions too, and seem confident as I set my bluff and nervous when I throw down my Mirror Force. On-line, you can't see anything. You have no way to know how your opponent is acting or reacting to anything. You can't see a tell and they can't mislead you with a tell. It's easier to attack without fear against an opponent you can't see, because there's no way to read them one way or the other. And most people bluff to dissuade a certain action, so online, bluffs don't really work. [/quote] That actually explains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1323897046' post='5706881'] But what Charlotte said about telling your opponent the cards you have to bluff later (which totally ninja'd me ) actually works better online because it isn't obvious that you're lying. [/quote] It's not obvious in real life either. Of course you can bluff in both. It's just that real life has more bluffing advantages. Real-life advantages over online: There is actual player-player interaction via body language, there are more stimuli for these sort of things. You can bluff via verbal lying and double bluff etc. Online advantages over real life: ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1323897262' post='5706902'] It's not obvious in real life either. Of course you can bluff in both. It's just that real life has more bluffing advantages. Real-life advantages over online: There is actual player-player interaction via body language, there are more stimuli for these sort of things. You can bluff via verbal lying and double bluff etc. Online advantages over real life: ??? [/quote] I'm just not getting it. Why is having those stimuli better than not having them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Psychology my friend. Psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Best verbal mind-game in one word: "Gorz" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I am of the opinion that bluffing is obviously better in real life for the reasons already stated in other posts. I'd elaborate, but I have already been ninja'd. Mainly by Evilfusion. I remember when I started playing, one of my opponents at the store would always pretend to be getting ready to activate his trap when I was about to declare an attack. The bluff worked the first time, but it irritated me, so I decided to ignore his body language in the second game. Pretty good win That was also something that you can't do over DN. Yes, bluffing really works, countless times I've pretended to have nothing and sigh, then activate my Mirror Force or drop my Gorz. It's a part of the game to some degree. Weather it's intentional or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I had to withdraw from my Psych 101 class in my freshman year of college. Didn't help that it was an 8:00 class. So yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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