J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [center][b][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/36483.jpg[/img][/b][/center] [center][b]3 Level 4 Spellcaster-Type monsters. When this monster is Xyz Summoned successfully, you can select up to 2 Level 4 or below Spellcaster-Type monsters from your Deck and send them to your Graveyard. As long as this monster remains face-up on your field, the Rank of all face-up monsters on the field is also treated as its Level. Once per turn during Main Phase 1 you can detach 1 Xyz material from this card to select 1 Spell or Trap Card from your Deck and add it to your hand. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase on the turn that you activate this effect.[/b][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [b]"the Rank of all face-up monsters on the field is also treated as its Level"[/b] Does that mean that cards based on levels, will effect Xyzs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Idg the rank=level effect. Eplain please? Otherwise 1000 attack for 3 lvl 4s seems bad. Don't be afraid to buff that part. Hell you could probably even make it just 2 spellcasters if you so wanted. No battle phase helps with the search effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 It does. That also means a Xyz monster that has used all of its Attachements can then be used for things such as Synchro Summoning. The Drawback is that all Xyz monsters are not affected by Level based cards such as Gravity Bind. [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1331874846' post='5872798'] Idg the rank=level effect. Eplain please? Otherwise 1000 attack for 3 lvl 4s seems bad. Don't be afraid to buff that part. No battle phase helps with the search effect. [/quote] True True. I already gave a Drawback at the end. I'll bump her to 1800 or so. Probally drop the DEF a little then. EDIT: Wow! editing it on Yugico, changes it her too :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Rank2Level effect seems very strange and abusable, though the summoning requirements work to compensate quite nicely. This would actually go extremely well in a Spellcaster archetype I made some time ago. I like it. Though, maybe ANY spell or trap is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'd actually consider 2200+. Look at some of the other Rank 4s, Ourobouros is freaking amazing, has the same requirements (only generic), and is at 2750 for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Well to be honest, this is my first real crack at Xyz monsters. I could give her a real buff but I was worried it would go into Op'ed territory especially with the Rank = Level effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyzzyzus Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Couple of things. "Level 4 or lower" would be the correct wording, I think. As for the "during Main Phase 1", I don't think you should distinguish between Main Phase 1 and 2, since I've only ever seen "Main Phase" on cards before (maybe there are specific examples of referring to MP 1 or 2, I'd like to see an example if you could provide one). The Rank = Level effect seems to be a nice idea, although I'm not sure about the balance of it, as not all decks have cards that affect levels like Level Limit Area B and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [quote name='Zyzzyzus' timestamp='1331875269' post='5872810'] Couple of things. "Level 4 or lower" would be the correct wording, I think. As for the "during Main Phase 1", I don't think you should distinguish between Main Phase 1 and 2, since I've only ever seen "Main Phase" on cards before (maybe there are specific examples of referring to MP 1 or 2, I'd like to see an example if you could provide one). The Rank = Level effect seems to be a nice idea, although I'm not sure about the balance of it, as not all decks have cards that affect levels like Level Limit Area B and such. [/quote] I couldn't mention Main Phase 2 as that was AFTER the Battle Phase. I wanted the choice to get a Spell or Trap but have to avoid the Battle. [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070718114711/yugioh/images/thumb/4/4a/AfterTheStruggleDB2-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-AfterTheStruggleDB2-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Here's a MP1 example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Umm....J-Max....unless I'm blind....your card says it requires EIGHT level four monsters to be summoned. .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1331875549' post='5872817'] Umm....J-Max....unless I'm blind....your card says it requires EIGHT level four monsters to be summoned. .-. [/quote] That's the Font of Yugico for you XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 God damn Yugico....THAT'S AN EIGHT NOT A THREE! D:< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 would eight level 4 monsters even be possible ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyzzyzus Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331876122' post='5872831'] would eight level 4 monsters even be possible ??? [/quote] If you put them in Spell and Trap Zones, sure. There's an idea for an ultimate Xyz monster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REvan342 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [quote name='Zyzzyzus' timestamp='1331876453' post='5872837'] If you put them in Spell and Trap Zones, sure. There's an idea for an ultimate Xyz monster... [/quote] yeah, if only The Seal of Orichalcos was a real card.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 [quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331876122' post='5872831'] would eight level 4 monsters even be possible ??? [/quote] I could create a Boss Crystal Beast monster that can also use CB's from the Spell & Trap Zone as well.... Hmmm;. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I know I'm loosing something when sending the Spellcasters to the Graveyard... just don't know what x_x I like it, but I too would raise the ATK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Spellcasters in the Grave = good opportunity for Recurssion. Also possible Deck Thinning to as the Spell & Trap effect could link into grabbing something really useful such as Drawing Power for Exodia. Also Exodia is Spellcasters so yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 That'd be funny to use. The quickest way seems to be Summoner Monk + Summoner Monk + 1 Spellcaster (I'd go for Lyla for the Spell/Trap destruction, then Xyz with it =P ) [quote name='Moe Fantastico J-Max' timestamp='1331874998' post='5872800'] It does. That also means a Xyz monster that has used all of its Attachements can then be used for things such as Synchro Summoning. The Drawback is that all Xyz monsters are not affected by Level based cards such as Gravity Bind. [/quote] According to the way it's writen, it should also make them affected by Level-based card effects. If you want them to somehow still be unaffected, while being able to be used for Synchros, I can try and come up with something. Overall lovely card. I like it quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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