Greiga Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Bermuda_%E2%96%B3"]http://cardfight.wik...rmuda_%E2%96%B3[/url] So I wanted to learn how to play Cardfight Vanguard and I heard these guys are pretty good. Also they have the best archetype/clan pic ever, if you have weird standards. Better than other card games though. So my questions: What do these guys do? Discuss strategies. Are they good for beginners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 inb4 Shard. Bermuda Triangles rely on insane draw power, from what I hear, much like Oracle Think Tanks. Since I've been out of touch with Cardfight and the only most-recent Deck that I've built is Tsukuyomi-Build OTT, I've yet to try out Bermuda Triangles for any strategies. Oh and also, Felucca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I don't get the point of this thread because I'm stupid? Anyway, because YCM Drama shouldn't interfere with good card games. Best Triangles are... [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Bermuda_Princess,_Lena"]http://cardfight.wik..._Princess,_Lena[/url] To abuse [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Light,_Carine"]http://cardfight.wik...w_Light,_Carine[/url] [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Girls_Rock,_Rio"]http://cardfight.wik...Girls_Rock,_Rio[/url] Get crazy advantage -> Win games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 The point of this thread is that I heard these guys were great and I wanted to know if I should use them and how. Are you referencing something on YCM and this thread? Is advantage the same as in YGO or different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333481011' post='5900302'] The point of this thread is that I heard these guys were great and I wanted to know if I should use them and how. Are you referencing something on YCM and this thread? [/quote] People have just been QQing a lot today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333481011' post='5900302'] Is advantage the same as in YGO or different? [/quote] The advantage is different in some aspects. Every card you have up on your opponent increases your chances of winning. The extra guard or power can really put your opponent in a tough spot, which is difficult to get out of late game. In Vanguard, the three big decks are Majesty Lord Blaster (MLB), Dragonic Overlord the End (DOtE), and Shadow Overlords. The deck strategy above is probably the closest to the top 3, making it in YGO terms Tier 1.5. However, since the actual Tier differences are so small it is easy to beat these decks with using your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 So are Bermudas like tier 2 or something, if we use tiers? Vanguard sounds like a game where anyone can beat anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333481706' post='5900318'] So are Bermudas like tier 2 or something, if we use tiers? Vanguard sounds like a game where anyone can beat anyone. [/quote] Well, I don't like using Tiers in Vanguard. Since they technically don't exist. I only use meta because there are popular decks. However, the big 3 are mentioned because the do win with more consistency, however small that actually is. That won't last because Bushiroad gives support to all clans, making sure that no one clan out does the rest for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [s]GET AWAY FROM MY BERMUDAS[/s] anyway, Bermudas are really good. PM me if you want to know about the different builds and stuff.[quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333480356' post='5900284'] I heard these guys are pretty good. [/quote] ... are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1333489124' post='5900458']... are you serious? [/quote] No I'm Greiga, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333489651' post='5900477'] No I'm Greiga, why? [/quote] You said "Guys" when they're [i]all clearly women. [/i]It just sounded sorta odd lol. Anyway, try Pacifica, Riviere and Raindear builds and then stick with the one you like the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Oh yeah, that's how I refer to a group of anything really. I'll do that when I learn to play and make a deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333489937' post='5900484'] Oh yeah, that's how I refer to a group of anything really. I'll do that when I learn to play and make a deck. [/quote] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD7C7O3eRxY&feature=relmfu[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMivJKxaCY&feature=relmfu[/youtube] Watch these and you can PM me if you're unsure on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Hand advantage is infinitely more valuable in Vanguard than YGO. You can't topdeck anything for a win in your Draw Phase, so what you have already matters a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1333490202' post='5900492'] You can't topdeck anything for a win in your Draw Phase, so what you have already matters a lot more. [/quote] [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120331050506/cardfight/images/thumb/5/56/65a.png/300px-65a.png[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120117172511/cardfight/images/thumb/f/f3/Dragonic_Overlord_The_End.jpg/300px-Dragonic_Overlord_The_End.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1333506406' post='5900956'] [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120331050506/cardfight/images/thumb/5/56/65a.png/300px-65a.png[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120117172511/cardfight/images/thumb/f/f3/Dragonic_Overlord_The_End.jpg/300px-Dragonic_Overlord_The_End.jpg[/img] [/quote] Oi! Why isn't PBO there? It's deck is arguably better than JI ENDO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 [quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1333506805' post='5900970'] Oi! Why isn't PBO there? It's deck is arguably better than JI ENDO. [/quote] Since when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 [quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1333506805' post='5900970'] Oi! Why isn't PBO there? It's deck is arguably better than JI ENDO. [/quote] Disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Idgi those cards because I cba to look them up. Even though I can read katakana and know their names. Are those cards you want to, what was it, Drive Check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 [quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1333506805' post='5900970'] Oi! Why isn't PBO there? It's deck is arguably better than JI ENDO. [/quote] >CB3 >Get 10k + 1 crit >get nullguarded >get smashed >ji endo >CB2 >Opponent can't null guard that because it's already happened >4 cards get instead of 2 No, Ji Endo is good. You never see PBO top because it's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Kokooooooo, I am ignored. What makes Road(Lord?) Blaster and Ji Endo so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Sorry, forgot you were new and didn't know the cards. http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Majestic_Blaster_Lord http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonic_Overlord_The_End http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_Blaster_Overlord This is what I refer to when saying the Top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Shadow Palys are more stable, lol. Fine, DoTEs CB is way better. Also you can just guard THE END's first attack. Can't see what difference that makes. I said the deck was [i]arugably[/i] better not the card. Shadow Palys have Blaster Javelin and stuff. I know Conroe but still, I find it way easier to actually get PBO to 13k. The card itself actually sucks and PBO got gimped on the Persona Blast because it does the same damn thing as PBD, which is the most idiotic thing ever where as THE END is just f***ing broken. Why CB2 when it has a better CB than PBO? Shouldn't it be the other way around? *Sigh* Bushiroad... Though I think Shadow Palys are probably a better clan in general than Kagero, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 But that is the problem Shard, you [i]HAVE[/i] to guard against DOtE every time if you're playing a good player. (or you're bad and haven't damaged him/her enough by the time its Rode) Not to mention I watched DOtE deal all 5 Damage in one turn for an amazing OTK. You can arguably take a hit from PBO if you really wanted to without as much harm. As for the speed comparison. [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Lizard_Soldier_Conroe"]http://cardfight.wik..._Soldier_Conroe[/url] [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Doom_Bringer_Gryphon"]http://cardfight.wik...Bringer_Gryphon[/url] [url="http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Flame_of_Hope,_Aermo"]http://cardfight.wik..._of_Hope,_Aermo[/url] Shadow Palys need to or usually go through a specific ride line, but Kagero doesn't until G3 and G3+ giving it ample time to prepare its power pieces. The decks are on the same level generally speaking, but this argument started because you (I can only assume) didn't read what I quoted. [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1333490202' post='5900492'] You can't topdeck anything for a win in your Draw Phase, so what you have already matters a lot more. [/quote] You can win by doing that with MLB and DOtE...not so much PBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Also you're forgetting Phantom Bringer Demon. Fine, PBO f***ing sucks, I actually thought that it was good. I was being stupid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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