Agro Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Kokonoe' timestamp='1334365023' post='5912850'] No it won't. Rabbit will be. Rabbit's the problem. Now shut up and stop being terrible. [/quote]Rabbit was a card that should only have seen use in lower tier decks. It's the other cards that I'd rather see hit than Rabbit. Also, why are you arguing at 5 AM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1334368651' post='5912921'] Rabbit was a card that should only have seen use in lower tier decks. It's the other cards that I'd rather see hit than Rabbit. Also, why are you arguing at 5 AM? [/quote] Rabbit is terrible design. Like, horrendous. Arguing "It's meant for lower tier" means nothing because it's always going to be abusable. You're terrible at math ._. It's 3 AM there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1334368850' post='5912928'] You're terrible at math ._. It's 3 AM there. [/quote]Because that makes it better. Very well then. Let's agree that both of them are terribly designed and let them rot on the banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1334368651' post='5912921'] Rabbit was a card that should only have seen use in lower tier decks. It's the other cards that I'd rather see hit than Rabbit. Also, why are you arguing at 5 AM? [/quote] What? Rabbit will only ever be used for the most abusive of purposes. Just because it's meant for lower tier decks, that doesn't mean it WILL be used for lower tier decks. However, Laggia would be incredibly difficult to get out without this. Tell me a good deck that can honestly spam Laggia consistently like Rabbit can. Really, I'd love to know. Also, it's 3am and I can't sleep. Couldn't careless if you had a problem with it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 It would be better than LV if it actually destroyed every face-up monster, didn't use your normal summon and wasn't food for Guaiba. Let's see what it does against the top 5 decks. Heroes: Almost every monster floats. Alius doesn't but you can chain Gemini Spark for the plus. Rabbit: Worst match for the card. The deck runs a wide variety of types, Dolkka negates it and Guaiba will eat it on the next turn. Wind-up: Cyber Dragon completely outclasses it as it is a 1-card answer to their board. Dark World: 1-4-1 their Grapha that will come back next turn for free. Inzektors: Everything floats. Big monster only come out during game pushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334391967' post='5913193'] It would be better than LV if it actually destroyed every face-up monster, didn't use your normal summon and wasn't food for Guaiba. Let's see what it does against the top 5 decks. Heroes: Almost every monster floats. Alius doesn't but you can chain Gemini Spark for the plus. Rabbit: Worst match for the card. The deck runs a wide variety of types, Dolkka negates it and Guaiba will eat it on the next turn. Wind-up: Cyber Dragon completely outclasses it as it is a 1-card answer to their board. Dark World: 1-4-1 their Grapha that will come back next turn for free. Inzektors: Everything floats. Big monster only come out during game pushes. [/quote] You didnt say anything about how it would work in a monotype environment,im guessing not at all since at the end of the road this is STILL the same or worse than vortex since it takes your normal summon and you cant go off with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote]You didnt say anything about how it would work in a monotype environment[/quote] lol All Dark Worlds are fiends All heroes are Warriors All Inzektors are Insects you can't wish for a more "monotype environment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334410506' post='5913345'] you can't wish for a more "monotype environment"[/quote] Except for Rabbit, of course. The deck is Beast/Dinosaur/Fiend/Aqua/Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334410506' post='5913345'] lol All Dark Worlds are fiends All heroes are Warriors All Inzektors are Insects you can't wish for a more "monotype environment" [/quote] These + their closest friends: [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111007023036/yugioh/images/thumb/6/67/ElementalHEROHeatLCGX-EN-C-1E.png/300px-ElementalHEROHeatLCGX-EN-C-1E.png[/img][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120409034631/yugioh/images/thumb/6/6b/ElementalHEROVoltic-DT06-EN-DNPR-DT.jpg/300px-ElementalHEROVoltic-DT06-EN-DNPR-DT.jpg[/img][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111007023037/yugioh/images/thumb/5/5d/ElementalHEROKnospeLCGX-EN-R-1E.png/300px-ElementalHEROKnospeLCGX-EN-R-1E.png[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111006014003/yugioh/images/thumb/5/5f/EvilHEROMaliciousEdgeLCGX-EN-ScR-1E.jpg/300px-EvilHEROMaliciousEdgeLCGX-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] I still agree with your post though. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 It was quite obvious that I am talking about heroes as a deck rather than an archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Cuz' cool HEROs(the deck) are roughly 90% Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1334417145' post='5913466'] Cuz' cool HEROs(the deck) are roughly 90% Warrior [/quote] Ignoring the extra deck, it's 3 Alius and a Stratos and that's it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I think more than once per turn killed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [center]Consumes the Normal Summon, rather weak stats, Type-specific removal.[/center] [center]Not that it's mediocre -- underwhelming would be the word -- but good? I'm sorry, but why should it be mained? Or even sided? And I'm not even talking about this format - the past ten formats would do real nicely.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1334450543' post='5913971'] Ignoring the extra deck, it's 3 Alius and a Stratos and that's it... [/quote] Bubbleman ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334410506' post='5913345'] lol All Dark Worlds are fiends All heroes are Warriors All Inzektors are Insects you can't wish for a more "monotype environment" [/quote]< Grapha can't revive itself < There are more than 8-10 monsters in a deck and they're all warriors. < Inzektors stay on the field long enough for you to declare a type and wipe the field. < Wind-Ups and Dino-Rabbit don't exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 How does this change their types? Also, I am pretty sure that you just copied my first post. Why do you think you are presenting me with information that I am not aware of? Don't try to look cool. That's my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334470644' post='5914287'] Don't try to look cool. That's my game.[/quote] [s]Manjy is both Pinkie Pie [i]AND[/i] Rainbow Dash[/s] Also, guys, I'm not sure if Tribe-Infect would ever come off the list, since Tribe-[i]Electrocuting[/i] exists. But ehh.... Thats Konami-Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1334474086' post='5914301'] [s]Manjy is both Pinkie Pie [i]AND[/i] Rainbow Dash[/s] Also, guys, I'm not sure if Tribe-Infect would ever come off the list, since Tribe-[i]Electrocuting[/i] exists. But ehh.... Thats Konami-Logic. [/quote] Im not sure if mystical space typhoon will ever go to 2,we have twister,tornado and mystical wind typhoon. Im not sure if heavy storm will come back,we have malevolent catastrophe. Im not sure if BLSEOTB will come back,we have chaos sorceror. Im not sure if chaos sorceror will ever be unbanned,we have sky scourge invicil. etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1334469705' post='5914273'] Bubbleman ): [/quote] Bubblebeat's inferior to regular stun and Bubbleman's never on the field long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1334490381' post='5914363'] Bubblebeat's inferior to regular stun and Bubbleman's never on the field long enough. [/quote] Bubblebeat can do everything stun can do, stun just main decks side board cards like skill drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1334495771' post='5914391'] Bubblebeat can do everything stun can do, stun just main decks side board cards like skill drain. [/quote] Why you'd only side Skill Drain in the current format is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Well like, I guess you could. But when you go into match-ups that don't care about your side board cards, like DW's, other Heroes, random stuff, it can be less consistent than without it. And i consider heroes, dws, rabbit, windups, and inzektors to be the current meta imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1334497120' post='5914408'] Well like, I guess you could. But when you go into match-ups that don't care about your side board cards, like DW's, other Heroes, random stuff, it can be less consistent than without it. And i consider heroes, dws, rabbit, windups, and inzektors to be the current meta imo. [/quote] I agree with that as the current meta, easily. Being a good card against the 3 most common of the top 5 decks makes it a really good main card tbh. Heroes naturally lose to DWs no matter how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1334497120' post='5914408'] And i consider heroes, dws, rabbit, windups, and inzektors to be the current meta imo. [/quote]Chuck in Twilight Dragons now*shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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