DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1336289848' post='5933567'] A good banlist hits broken/imbalanced cards regardless of how much an archtype needs them to survive.[/quote][quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336290138' post='5933570']Pretty much, yeah.[/quote] ...Oh well. Seems like our central thoughts are completely different. It's pretty pointless to argue, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1336307995' post='5933633'] It's pretty pointless to argue, then. [/quote] I thought people did that for +1's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Call of the Haunted~ Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='TheTurtleOnceCalledGod' timestamp='1336312561' post='5933646'] I thought people did that for +1's [/quote] My concept of a +1 post tells me those are supposed to be short. On topic: >Prevents Special Summons >Has a very easy way to SS itself Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I find it funny how "banning Laggia and Leviair" comes up in discussion, which are both perfectly fine design by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1336315825' post='5933668'] I find it funny how "banning Laggia and Leviair" comes up in discussion, which are both perfectly fine design by themselves. [/quote]Laggia: A walking +1 is considered balanced? Leviair: Yes, if only the banished pile didn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336332223' post='5933821'] Laggia: A walking +1 is considered balanced? Leviair: Yes, if only the banished pile didn't exist. [/quote] It's a -1 to make OR needs you to run inconsistent trash like najasho and setup the grave for vulcano vulcano by getting cerato destroyed OR needs you to wait on a flip effect of the wonderfully slow and easy to pick off westlo along with the hard to make graveyard setup,and so forth,evols suck. Leviair is a -1 drop ideally too and he is now is rarely used in the few decks that need him outside of TGU,which is bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1336332925' post='5933833'] Leviair is a -1 drop ideally too and he is now is rarely used in the few decks that need him outside of TGU,which is bannable. [/quote]As byak has said, the banished pile was never meant to be abused like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336333855' post='5933846'] As byak has said, the banished pile was never meant to be abused like that. [/quote] You cant really go halfway with this,if you're gonna go with your principle of "The banished pile should never be touched",you either ban [u]all[/u] RFG toolboxing or none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1336334440' post='5933849'] You cant really go halfway with this,if you're gonna go with your principle of "The banished pile should never be touched",you either ban [u]all[/u] RFG toolboxing or none at all. [/quote] But when it comes to abusing that pile, Leviair is the best, and is easily splashable. The rest are kinda meh, and most people wouldn't consider running them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336333855' post='5933846'] As byak has said, the banished pile was never meant to be abused like that. [/quote] That's like saying the extra deck was never meant to be abused the way it is today. Thing is, it is, games evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336334551' post='5933852'] But when it comes to abusing that pile, Leviair is the best, and is easily splashable. The rest are kinda meh, and most people wouldn't consider running them. [/quote] DDR is better than leviair without tour guide in all the decks that need RFG tooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1336334646' post='5933855'] That's like saying the extra deck was never meant to be abused the way it is today. Thing is, it is, games evolve. [/quote]I wouldn't necessarily say that that's an equal comparison. The banished pile, or "remove from play", was meant to be just that.[quote name='mido9' timestamp='1336334789' post='5933856'] DDR is better than leviair without tour guide in all the decks that need RFG tooling [/quote]DDR has legs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336334878' post='5933857'] I wouldn't necessarily say that that's an equal comparison. The banished pile, or "remove from play", was meant to be just that. [/quote] The Extra deck was never meant to be the house of main win conditions. It's "Extra". It was supposed to be just that. And Kristya punishes said extra way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 You cant even make those legs to begin with. <p>[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336334878' post='5933857']<br/> I wouldn't necessarily say that that's an equal comparison.<br/> <br/> The banished pile, or "remove from play", was meant to be just that.<br/> [/quote] Then ban DDR,since the RFG is sacrosanct to you in that aspect and should never be touched under any circumstances,or is a balanced remove from play access,which need i point out in this case is a million times better than leviair,not hitworthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Kristya embodies the spirit of the old-game, where you didn't use the Extra Deck as much. ...of course, she's more than happy to team up with that Brionac you just summoned, too. main deck monsters ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. guy Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Kristya is a necesary evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 [quote name='Mr. guy' timestamp='1336346292' post='5933950'] Kristya is a necesary evil [/quote] ... No it isn't, no more than Royal Oppression was a "necessary evil" ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 When you ban Exodias head, you can limit the parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/274790-archlord-kristya-question-ycm/page__hl__kristya"]http://forum.yugiohc...ge__hl__kristya[/url] You see...back when TCG was still good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1336365161' post='5934180'] [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/274790-archlord-kristya-question-ycm/page__hl__kristya"]http://forum.yugiohc...ge__hl__kristya[/url] You see...back when TCG was still good... [/quote]Totally a dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 [quote name='Mr. guy' timestamp='1336346292' post='5933950'] Kristya is a necessary evil [/quote] Define neccessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I'm pretty sure that everyone I've seen play this (including myself) has forgotten the "add the fairy to hand" effect. Mostly because everyone summons it with Valhalla anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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