Resident Fascist Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100621224932/yugioh/images/8/80/ForbiddenChaliceRGBT-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img][/center] [center]it's amazing[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I run this over Veiler cause clogging issues, and I absolutely love it. Also helps a lot in my absolute worst matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 at worst, it can pump as a combat trick during battle. At best, it can be a spell speed 2 divine wrath without the discard that can be played from your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm starting to like this over the Fiendish Chain because it stops effects in the damage step and that the effect negation is still applied even on cards like Rabbit. Oh, and it gives Bubblebeat an additional OTK that doesn't rely on a limited card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 A hilarious card to use on Fusilier or Beast King Barbaros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Staple at 3 in Darklord Desire.dek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 This is simply better than Veiler for one reason, it's not limited to their Main Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 *waits for a Normal Spell card that negates a monster's effect until it leaves the field* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Both this and Lance can be used interdependently in their own situations. Chalice is good if you want to run 6 Veiler, or if you want to push for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='Ｍｕｇｅｎｄｒａｍｏｎ' timestamp='1339759483' post='5957239'] This is simply better than Veiler for one reason, it's not limited to their Main Phase. [/quote] I'd much rather play Veiler tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1339870261' post='5957819'] I'd much rather play Veiler tbh. [/quote] Why? Not that Veiler is a bad card, but Forbidden can be very useful compared to Veiler. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1339870814' post='5957828'] Why? Not that Veiler is a bad card, but Forbidden can be very useful compared to Veiler. Just saying. [/quote] In this format where MST and Storm are rampant, I'd rather play Veiler because it's safely in hand. Also I can search it with Sangan or use it a a LIGHT for BLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yeah, but because Forbidden is a quick-play you can use it as bait against those MSTs and Storms and still chain it to your opponent's monster (which will likely have not activated their effects before your opponent attempts to destroy your backrow). Sure, it gives your opponent's monster a temporary 400 ATK boost, but that's nothing to worry about compared to the MSTs, Storms, and monster's effects. I get what you're saying about Veiler, but like someone else said, Veiler is limited to only your opponent's Main Phase, while Forbidden can be used during your Battle Phase, YOUR Main Phase, or the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1339871095' post='5957834'] In this format where MST and Storm are rampant, I'd rather play Veiler because it's safely in hand. [/quote] And he's staying there as their REDMD stares down on your Graphas. [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1339871095' post='5957834'] In this format where MST and Storm are rampant, I'd rather play Veiler because it's safely in hand. Also I can search it with Sangan or use it a a LIGHT for BLS. [/quote] Well, Typhoons are being used in the side more and more nowadays. You can store your Veilers on the side G1, then as they bring in their MSTs you exchange your Chalices for your Mikus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Off topic of the debate, but I like this card and its cousin: [IMG]http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb417/shriez/trolllance.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='Ｍｕｇｅｎｄｒａｍｏｎ' timestamp='1339871827' post='5957839'] And he's staying there as their REDMD stares down on your Graphas. [/quote] I'd much rather Veiler the REDMD to stop Lightpulsar coming out then summon Grapha back the next turn. Also, I forgot the real reason why you play Veiler, it's by far the most effective out to Wind-Up, as long as you know when to use it. If Wind-Up go first and you don't draw Veiler you tend to lose (unless you're playing Darkworld, in which case I probably wouldn't play Veiler anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1339879914' post='5957885'] [True, true] (unless you're playing Darkworld, in which case I probably wouldn't play Veiler anyway.) [/quote] Hunter doesn't actually care for Dark Worlds, he sends to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Oh. Ok, you want to play Veiler in Darkworld too then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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