Doc. Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 So, the banlist isn't out yet, Chris/byakk has already predicted one, but what cards would you like to see there? E-Emergency Call - LIMITED. BLS-EOTB - Banned, idgaf. Seal of Orichalcos - Confirmed as tourney legal, coming out in LC3, LIMITED. So any other thoughts? Maybe kill another 2 or 3 decks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Murder that fahking Rabbit. Throw it down the permaban hole, don't let it come out alive. Other than that, nothing else to say from me, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 September, so... Could we see a little bit of love for Agents, Konami? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ban: REDMM Limited: Tour Guide Gold Sarc Laggia Dolkka Leviair Hornet Wind-Up Hunter Snoww Semi: Tsukuyomi Book of Moon Unlimit: Spore Glow-up [quote name='ドレッド★Toyo' timestamp='1342914692' post='5984956'] Murder that fahking Rabbit. Throw it down the permaban hole, don't let it come out alive. Other than that, nothing else to say from me, really. [/quote] Rabbit's problem isn't itself, but the Evolzars and the consistence of the deck. I'm pretty sure that Rabbit HERO or Rabbit Verz isn't a deck in meta. Limit Tourguide, Gold sarc, Laggia and Dolkka and you just killed the Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Kokomoe' timestamp='1342916674' post='5984973'] September, so... Could we see a little bit of love for Agents, Konami? Please? [/quote] Yes. Earth and Striker at two would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Personally, I'd love to see Earth come back to 2. I'd also like Black Whirlwhind, Kalut, or Gale to 2. Blackwings were my first (albeit budget) real deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342917205' post='5984981'] Ban: REDMM Limited: Tour Guide Gold Sarc Laggia Dolkka Leviair Hornet Wind-Up Hunter Snoww Semi: Tsukuyomi Book of Moon Spore Glow-up Rabbit's problem isn't itself, but the Evolzars and the consistence of the deck. I'm pretty sure that Rabbit HERO or Rabbit Verz isn't a deck in meta. Limit Tourguide, Gold sarc, Laggia and Dolkka and you just killed the Rabbit. [/quote] Having multiple tourguides doesn't really make a difference, other than having more targets for itself, really. If its effect is BS, banning it is the only reasonable solution, in my opinion. Spore and Glow-Up aren't coming back. Or, at the very least, I hope to the good lord in heaven that they do not. Don't even think about making an excuse of "but Synchros aren't used as much anymore", because you can't justify broken effects that way. Nothing should be given a card bad for the game just so it's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Cant we at least [b][i]know[/i][/b] the effect of orihalcos before we put it on random prediction lists? People are hyping it too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Btw I think semi-limited tour guide would be good since it wouldn't be splashed in every deck, since for it to be effective you would need to run tour bus (which isn't to fantastic) and with avarice going it will be balanced at two. Also, Black Whirlwind to 2 and Tengu to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Whirlwind is totally broken,so that's sure to come back to 2-3 next list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Is that sarcasm or not, mido9? It's possible, seeing as it's Konami. But I think it's unlikely to happen. Doesn't keep me from hoping though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Blackwings would be decent with two Whirlwind imo. Also, synchros need more support, so tengu to 3. Probably won't happen with Konami pushing their xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Banned Hunter REDMD RABBIT Limited Leviair Hornet Spore Bulb Semi Earth Snoww Unlimited Tsukuyomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 why should Rabbit be banned. Semi Rabbit, limit laggia and the deck is less consistent but not totally dead since Laggia and Dolkka are the things that make it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Don't forget, many think Tour Guide's gonna get hit come September, which will also hurt the deck. No, I don't think that Rabbit's gonna hop his way to the banlist. I think it's more likely that he'll simply get semi'd, or maybe limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The sad reality is that Rabbit isn't necessarily an effect bad for the game, just like Rescue Cat's. However, the ways in which they can be [i]abused[/i] makes it messed up. Really, unless a bunch of Exceeds and specific problems hit the list, a lot of non-Exceeds are going to be punished for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yeah Tour Guide will be put at 2 most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='.Leo' timestamp='1342918114' post='5985001'] Blackwings would be decent with two Whirlwind imo. Also, synchros need more support, so [b]tengu to 3[/b]. Probably won't happen with Konami pushing their xyz. [/quote] Really? Arguable the most broken floater should be put at 3, because syncs needs support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Forbidden: Wind-Up Hunter Inzektor Hornet Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon Elemental HERO Stratos Sangan Limited: Rescue Rabbit Ultimate Offering Semi-Limited: Tour Guide From the Underworld + other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Why Rabbit isn't the Problem - Mild Outside of Making Evolzars (Just like Cat was in Some decks! which might point to this being banned.) Why Evolzars Aren't the Problem - Mild Outside of Rabbit Abuse (WELL HUH) Solution: Ban all Level 4 Normal Dinos because who the **** uses them outside of rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Airride_Master' timestamp='1342919576' post='5985026'] Why Rabbit isn't the Problem - Mild Outside of Making Evolzars (Just like Cat was in Some decks! which might point to this being banned.) Why Evolzars Aren't the Problem - Mild Outside of Rabbit Abuse (WELL HUH) Solution: Ban all Level 4 Normal Dinos because who the **** uses them outside of rabbit. [/quote] One card xyzs aren't good for this game what are you talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Rabbit - one card XYZ - we want it hit. Tour Guide - one card XYZ - we want it hit. Scrap Chimera - one card XYZ/Synchro - no one complains. Gogogo giant - one card XYZ - no one complains. Blackwing - Blizzard - one card synchro - no one complains. It's not the one card XYZ / Synchro that's the problem, it's how abusable it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Wattcobra' timestamp='1342920355' post='5985037'] Rabbit - one card XYZ - we want it hit. Tour Guide - one card XYZ - we want it hit. Scrap Chimera - one card XYZ/Synchro - no one complains. Gogogo giant - one card XYZ - no one complains. Blackwing - Blizzard - one card synchro - no one complains. It's not the one card XYZ / Synchro that's the problem, it's how abusable it is. [/quote] You're comparing 1-card Xyz from the Grave to 1-card Xyz from the DECK. From the Grave, while still not good design, requires set up beforehand. You can't just open with Junk Synchron turn 1 and get a Sync. It's not "herp derp I drew it and I normal summon an extra deck monster". From the deck is stupid, easy deck thinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Guys, before going all "BAN DA WABBIT", please look on how Rabbit decks are doing on Japan. (Protip: they don't have Tour Guide, interesting huh?) [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1342917560' post='5984988'] Having multiple tourguides doesn't really make a difference, other than having more targets for itself, really. If its effect is BS, banning it is the only reasonable solution, in my opinion.[/quote] Tour Guide = Leviair Leviair + Gold Sarc = Insta Rabbit It's the standard combo, you know...? [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1342917560' post='5984988']Spore and Glow-Up aren't coming back. Or, at the very least, I hope to the good lord in heaven that they do not. Don't even think about making an excuse of "but Synchros aren't used as much anymore", because you can't justify broken effects that way. Nothing should be given a card bad for the game just so it's played. [/quote] I don't think that plants be that broken with 1 lonefire, 1 debris, 1 dandylion and no trishula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342920950' post='5985048'] Tour Guide = Leviair Leviair + Gold Sarc = Insta Rabbit It's the standard combo, you know...? [/quote] That combo was dropped long ago. Also Rabbit does better in TCG because of TGU and Dolkka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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