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宇佐見 蓮子@C94

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宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Newbie

宇佐見 蓮子@C94

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I'm jealous because newbies get more replies in their thread than my threads... I'm very jealous of you, whoever gets more than 10 replies a day.


[URL=http://yugico.com/user/29408-Toyo-tan/card/24197-Toyo-tan/92835-Phantom_Witch_-_Ashtria][IMG]http://yugico.com/customcard/92835.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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Cannot be Normal Summoned. Must first be Special Summoned by Banishing 3 Spell Cards from your Graveyard; Special Summon this Card from your hand. Once per turn: You can Discard 1 Spell Card; Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Spellcaster-type Monster from your hand. Once per turn: You can Banish 2 Spell Cards from your Graveyard; Target one Xyz Monster you control, once this turn, the Targeted Monster can activate it's effect(s) without Detaching an Xyz Material.
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FF Fan Newbie

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Seem like it'll be hard for the witch to use her ss eff since you've practically have used up all of your spells for her summon, but I think the prophecy archetype can regain dead spells and so can my Vodou archetype. The XYZ eff is bomb.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Sorry, couldn't resist. My reaction on seeing the last part of the effect.

Laggia suddenly stops your opponent from doing virtually anything for the rest of the turn. Or [inserts other Xyz card doing crazy stuff.]

Yes, it might be hard to summon, and use the effect in the same turn. But there will be the turn when it does, and your opponent cries themself to sleep. I mean... i suppose rabbit deck could eventually bring this out, But, just for the potential of it happening just the once. Or a deck using the Spell book engine just to roll this out. I mean, it might be virtually impossible to summon, but that doesn't make it less terrifying. Particulalry as one of its effects fuels it Xyz effect.

Umm... put a limit on it being once per turn. So, like i said Laggia can't go. You do nothing whilst i beat you repeadtedly with this walking solemn judgement dragon shaped mallet.

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[quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1344296571' post='5999376']
It is made with Prophecy decks in mind. That's why her summoning condition involves banishing Spells from your grave. Also, glad you feel that way about her last eff, I made the last effect so that it would balance out the rather though summoning condition she has.
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I saw that coming.


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[s]f**k you Dino Rabbits, I hope you burn in the deepest reaches of hell for not allowing me to make a good Xyz Support without making it broken. Oh, and Tour Guide, I hope you are banished to Mars since you are the sole reason I can't make a balanced Rank 3 Xyz.[/s]

Anyways, fixed.
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I know right? Its like why even bother with the "2 Level 3 Monsters" part when it is really just 1?

Make it just work for Spellcasters. There would be some hilarity going on with Alchemic Magician though (or however you spell it) - I mean, you could effectively search x5 Spell cards :o, but that would be pretty hard combo to pull off anyways.

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[quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1344297854' post='5999428']
nevergonnahappen.jpg

I don't think there's a lot of Spellcaster Xyzs at the moment.
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What?
-1) It would have insane potential to grow in the future
-2) It would have insane potential with alchemic magician.
-3) The japanese would go crazy over it.

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宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Newbie

宇佐見 蓮子@C94

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[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1344298108' post='5999440']
What?
-1) It would have insane potential to grow in the future
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Potential. It might grow or it won't. It's up to Derpnami for that. Right now, I think the current effect is more useful.
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-2) It would have insane potential with alchemic magician.
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Link to Alchemic Magician's wikia page, please. Anyway, the current effect still works with Spellcasters right?
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-3) The japanese would go crazy over it.
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I wonder what you mean by that?

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[quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1344298524' post='5999458']
Potential. It might grow or it won't. It's up to Derpnami for that. Right now, I think the current effect is more useful.

Link to Alchemic Magician's wikia page, please. Anyway, the current effect still works with Spellcasters right?


I wonder what you mean by that?
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[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemic_Magician"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemic_Magician[/url]
The current effect is sorta busted. Infinite solemns your turn with Laggia. No cost for Zenmaines being destroyed. Infinite rolls on lucky str8, sorry I just don't think it is a good idea.

[quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1344298524' post='5999458']
Potential. It might grow or it won't. It's up to Derpnami for that. Right now, I think the current effect is more useful.

Link to Alchemic Magician's wikia page, please. Anyway, the current effect still works with Spellcasters right?


I wonder what you mean by that?
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[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemic_Magician"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemic_Magician[/url]
The current effect is sorta busted. Infinite solemns your turn with Laggia. No cost for Zenmaines being destroyed. Infinite draws and rolls on lucky str8, sorry I just don't think it is a good idea.

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Oh, I have a habit of reading the actual card. It makes me feel more like I am reading cards I pulled out of a pack. You might want to update the pic.

But ok. I guess its fine. I liked it when it was infinite, but if you made it work only with spellcasters it would have been more specific. Up to you, ultimately.

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[center]That last sentence is horrendously broken. I don't know what occurred in your mind when you thought dodging Exceed effect activation costs is a great idea, but I cannot allow this -- for since when is having 3 Spells in the Grave a worthy cost for summoning this?[/center]

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[quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1344331211' post='5999887']
Y U NO READ EFF UNDER CARD?!
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[center]Still not enough. The cost has to be steep, not merely 2 Spells. If you're going to flirt with seriously dodging the costs of anything, the costs for doing so must be enormous -- it must HURT.[/center]

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Strider Tigerwolf Newbie

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I agree with sui kn this one. Laggia gets a free negate for Grave banishment which isnt a cost at all anymore. So does Zenmains, Zenmaighty, Ardeus...pretty much any Xyz monster you can run along side this card. The broken part is that you can actually do something extremely simple: mill it and use Phantom which is extremely easy set up wih Chaos Dragons. Okay, you dont run Laggia on this on...but what about Atum? Bouncer? Trollcannon? They have a free Summon, Negate, and burn all in 1 turn. So either the cost is heavier....or the effect is more limited. Maybe you can target just 1 Xyz monster and only that 1 card gets a free benefit.

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[quote] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Y U NO READ EFF UNDER CARD?! [/quote][/size][/font][/color]
[font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#5a5a5a"][size=3]Y U NO UPDATE CARD? [/size][/color][/font]
[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Seriously, this isn't the written cards forum. Update the actual card.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][quote] [/size][/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][center][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Still not enough. The cost has to be steep, not merely 2 Spells. If you're going to flirt with seriously dodging the costs of anything, the costs for doing so must be enormous -- it must HURT. [/quote][/background][/center][/size][/font][/color]
[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][center][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]To be fair, you are completely ignoring the cost of actually playing the card, getting the dead draws when it is useless, etc... etc...[/background][/center][/size][/font][/color]

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[quote name='Kenji Inuma' timestamp='1344362567' post='6000150']
You completely missed the point of Chaos Dragons....
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No I didn't.
Suibon says it dodges the cost of cards. When in reality, it simply transfers them into another form, i.e. the cost of using X is no longer detaching material and instead it is requiring this card to be in your deck, potentially cause bad draws, etc...
The only time a card completely dodges the cost of cards is when it makes them completely costless on draw, or just costing one card, i.e. the card you are using to dodge the costs in the first place, for example Rescue Rabbit or TGU (because they turn Xyzs into non-tribute, Normal Summon monsters, i.e. no cost). You can't go around saying any card that mitigates a cost is somehow bad design.

That said, I'd agree that this card's summoning conditions are way too low. I'd play it in my skilldrain deck just because it is a special summon 2500 beater requiring only 3 cards in grave to summon.

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Felt too lazy to read the comments right now, but the card seems insteresting.

Toon Table of Contents (If you don't wanna use the Prophesy Spells engine, which I've never seen in practice) is a nice way to make this card's Summon.
If only there was a Burial from a Different Dimension, but for Spells, this would get a nice toy.



and don't feel bad for lack of comments, the few times I get to come here, I mostly get 0, or 1 from some friend from other section that took pity on me and came to comment. ;_;

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