Althemia Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344606663' post='6002924'] you get the OTK pieces. you make the rest of your move. end your turn. and then, your opponent wins. :/ [/quote] That's like saying you lose after you use Cardcar. The hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Rabbit has restrictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 [quote name='Grapha Demon Lord of Sexy' timestamp='1344608085' post='6002943'] Could say the same about Rabbit. You'd be wrong. Free +1 addwhatyouwanttohandfordrawingthiscard. [/quote] Rabbit's restrictions are different from Seahorse's restrictions. Seahorse adds consistency while practically ending your turn. Rabbit is, er, well, just Normal Summoning an Xyz. Adding same 2 cards of the same name in exchange for giving up your ability to Special Summon is way better design than Normal Summoning an Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1344608676' post='6002950'] Rabbit has restrictions? [/quote] So does this.[quote name='Tentalus Therapist' timestamp='1344609733' post='6002964'] Rabbit's restrictions are different from Seahorse's restrictions. Seahorse adds consistency while practically ending your turn. Rabbit is, er, well, just Normal Summoning an Xyz. Adding same 2 cards of the same name in exchange for giving up your ability to Special Summon is way better design than Normal Summoning an Xyz. [/quote] No, it's not. Free adding isn't good design at all. Free double adding is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 [quote name='Tentalus Therapist' timestamp='1344609733' post='6002964'] Rabbit's restrictions are different from Seahorse's restrictions. Seahorse adds consistency while practically ending your turn. Rabbit is, er, well, just Normal Summoning an Xyz. Adding same 2 cards of the same name in exchange for giving up your ability to Special Summon is way better design than Normal Summoning an Xyz. [/quote] Both are still terrible design if they're enough to break the undersupported theme by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 God forbid Thunder's actually get any support. It's not like they're threatening the metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Thunders can get support. Just not this =/ Again, I love the deck to death, tied with Fableds, but that doesn't make Seahorse any better design. It's still a rescue rabbit for the deck, being stupid easy to abuse and dodge any drawbacks it had. Hell, if you're sitting on a Utopia/Pearl/Sometimes Marstroke and a T-Roar/Scarecrow, you can just drop this and not give a damn about it's so called restriction. And play the deck sometime. In the hundred or so games I've played with it, I've only opened badly maybe 5 times. It can make do without much set up, and just sit on what they have l they have more to use. It may not be "meta threatening", but it could get there. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 This thing makes any deck that runs it consitent beyond belief. I tech it in Gem-Knights for thunder materials. On paper it seems ok, but in game it has such a massive impact it is broken. especially in thunder who don't mind no special summon a huge amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Why would you normal summon the father/mother thunders under this when you cant xyz with them anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 The arguments that this card is balanced are just stupid.....there is consistency then there is "set up your OTK just because you drew this card" So what if you can't SS this turn? The fact is you are still setting up your OTK at the cost of waiting a turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 [quote name='Daiyusha' timestamp='1344608199' post='6002944'] That's like saying you lose after you use Cardcar. The hell? [/quote] because it IS possible, you know... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344687723' post='6003924'] because it IS possible, you know... :/ [/quote] Well, no s*** it's possible. Unlikely, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='Daiyusha' timestamp='1344689563' post='6003941'] Well, no s*** it's possible. Unlikely, but possible. [/quote] as long as "possible" is written all over the situation, there's no room for doubt. you never know when you'll be surprised. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344749557' post='6004778'] as long as "possible" is written all over the situation, there's no room for doubt. you never know when you'll be surprised. just saying. [/quote]There's always the possibility, but that's still such a slim chance that honestly, it shouldn't be taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I knew this card would be broke from the moment I saw it. I actually use it alone with only thunder dragon as it's equal in an exodia deck, cause turning 1 card into a thunder dragon drop is so fair by itself for deck thinning in a draw deck. and now I add another set of it. yeah. totally fair. not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='werewolfjedi' timestamp='1344755920' post='6004849'] I knew this card would be broke from the moment I saw it. I actually use it alone with only thunder dragon as it's equal in an exodia deck, cause turning 1 card into a thunder dragon drop is so fair by itself for deck thinning in a draw deck. and now I add another set of it. yeah. totally fair. not. [/quote] I thought people stopped playing Exodia because there was no skill to it in the first place. And I thought Seahorse was used for something else .-. Oh wait, that's because it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344803356' post='6005422'] I thought people stopped playing Exodia because there was no skill to it in the first place. [/quote] People still play Exodia / FC / whatever. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1344803460' post='6005423'] People still play Exodia / FC / whatever. :I [/quote] Lol a bunch of losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344804393' post='6005438'] Lol a bunch of losers. [/quote] Exodia got into top 4 of worlds and only lost because someone made an unorthodox yet brilliant play. You were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344804393' post='6005438'] Lol a bunch of losers. [/quote] If they want to play Exodia / FC / whatever, then be it, but you have no right to call them "a bunch of losers". :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1344804470' post='6005442'] If they want to play Exodia / FC / whatever, then be it, but you have no right to call them "a bunch of losers". :I [/quote] Sorry, I got it from Vengevine. He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344804686' post='6005451'] Sorry, I got it from Vengevine. He's good. [/quote] yeah well saying that is quite rude. I was just going to the simple fact of that, considering that thunder dragon's only use is deck thinning these days, and EVEN IF thunder seahorse didn't have your anything you want in thunder choice going on a herp derp draw deck alone doesn't need another costless deck thinning +1 which is what this is to any decent player, a costless +1 with deck thinning, for exactly what you want. and it takes no skill to use. hey, if you have 3 turns for sure blocked up, you can get 2 more pluses off this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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