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[quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344602985' post='6002889']
and this is relevant in YU-GI-OH TCG... how?
someone lock this.
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[quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344602985' post='6002889']
and this is relevant in YU-GI-OH TCG... how?
someone lock this.
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1. there's an "Other TCG" section here
2. NO Rules this week

so yea...

OT: can't wait for this card:
[img]http://pokebeach.com/news/0812/plasma-gale-crobat-promo.jpg[/img]

[b]Crobat[/b] - Psychic - HP130
Stage 2 - Evolves from Golbat
[color=#ff0000]Ability[/color]:[color=#ff0000] Night Sight[/color]
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may draw a card.
[b][color=#4b0082][P][/color][color=#808080][C][C][/color][/b] Deadly Poison Fangs: 40 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Poisoned. Put 4 damage counters on it instead of 1 between turns.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 0

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[quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1344603221' post='6002893']
1. there's an "Other TCG" section here
2. NO Rules this week
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what? no rules? that's stupid.

[quote name='mido9' timestamp='1344603177' post='6002892']
[you must be new here]
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yes i am. and i'm only trying to follow the rules. the problem with that is...?

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[quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1344603221' post='6002893']
OT: can't wait for this card:
[img]http://pokebeach.com/news/0812/plasma-gale-crobat-promo.jpg[/img]
[b]Crobat[/b] - Psychic - HP130
Stage 2 - Evolves from Golbat
Ability: Night Sight
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may draw a card.
[P][C][C] Deadly Poison Fangs: 40 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Poisoned. Put 4 damage counters on it instead of 1 between turns.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 0
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This is the power creep in Pokemon TCG? Why are people complaining about YGO? :S

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[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1344603555' post='6002895']
This is the power creep in Pokemon TCG? Why are people complaining about YGO? :S
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Pokémon can combat power creep with rotations. Besides, that Crobat is by far nowhere near the most broken thing in the format anyway.

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[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1344603831' post='6002901']
Pokémon can combat power creep with rotations. Besides, that Crobat is by far nowhere near the most broken thing in the format anyway.
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I know how to play Pokemon TCG, but have no idea of what the most broken things are.
So just out of curiousity, can you post that? =0


The card above seemed broken enough to me. I can just imagine what the others are...

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[quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1344608944' post='6002952']
I know how to play Pokemon TCG, but have no idea of what the most broken things are.
So just out of curiousity, can you post that? =0
The card above seemed broken enough to me. I can just imagine what the others are...
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I don't personally play, but I do follow.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai-EX_(Dark_Explorers_63)

Main evil of the format. A couple of others, but they're not really evil. New Altaria and new Bouffalant. As well as maybe the new Gabite.

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[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1344603831' post='6002901']
Pokémon can combat power creep with rotations. Besides, that Crobat is by far nowhere near the most broken thing in the format anyway.
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But you gotta' admit, 40 Damage from Poison + walking draw engine is pretty cool.

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[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1344609829' post='6002968']
[size=6][b]BY MY DOGMATIC INFLUENCE THIS HAS NOW BECOME A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT POWER CREEPS IN ANY CARD GAME. [/b][/size]

Preferrably with additional comparison between Yugioh and other games (MTG, Vanguard, Pokemon, Battle Spirits, Duel Masters, etc.)

Happy now folks?
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It might be unintended by the OP, but sounds good to me.

-Does Vanguard have Power Creep already? I thought one of it's strong points was that everything was pretty much balanced.


[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1344609524' post='6002959']
I don't personally play, but I do follow.

[url="http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai-EX_(Dark_Explorers_63"]http://bulbapedia.bu...rk_Explorers_63[/url])

Main evil of the format. A couple of others, but they're not really evil. New Altaria and new Bouffalant. As well as maybe the new Gabite.
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So, it's a basic pokemon. With 180 HP. That can attack for 90 and do 30 more to a benched pokemon.
D=

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The Dragon Type Altaria doesn't seem that powerful...unless it is only a support card...for which is good I figure But what is the attacker for that? Dragon Blade Garchomp?.

Gabite is kinda Ugh...If he survives 2 turns minimum he can set up Altaria + Garchomp for 120 with 2 Energies...ugly

OT: MTG Power Creep works in a wierd way....Currently they are making Creatures better than Spells where at the beggining of the Game Spells were quite Powerfull while Creatures where Good at best...

Plus with the new Rotation coming up a new power Level is about to come...Innistrad Block was kinda less powerfull all in all compared with Mirrodin/Phyrexia...that came from the Broken Zendikar...But on the other hand now we are going to Ravnica again so we'll have to wait and see...

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[quote name='-Lightray Daedalus-' timestamp='1344610808' post='6002982']
The Dragon Type Altaria doesn't seem that powerful...unless it is only a support card...for which is good I figure But what is the attacker for that? Dragon Blade Garchomp?.
Gabite is kinda Ugh...If he survives 2 turns minimum he can set up Altaria + Garchomp for 120 with 2 Energies...ugly
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If you set up an Altaria with a Garchomp (which you should be able to do around turn 3-4 if you're good with decklists), you basically win (especially when the other half of decks in the format are EX-based and you win in half the time).

Ugly, but super-consistent.

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whilst .Rai was talking about Darkrai EX, it makes a perfect lead into this:

[img]http://pokebeach.com/news/0812/plasma-gale-klinklang.gif[/img]

[b]Klinklang[/b] - Steel - HP140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Klang
[color=#ff0000]Ability: Plasma Steel[/color]
[b]Prevent all damage done to your [M] Pokemon by attacks from your opponent's Pokemon-EX.[/b]
[b][color=#696969][M][M][/color][/b][C] Heavy Bullet: 70 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 20 damage to 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokemon. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 3

...yea

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