Jirachibi Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120819164910/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a6/GrandsoiltheElementalLord-REDU-EN-ScR-1E.jpg/300px-GrandsoiltheElementalLord-REDU-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by having exactly 5 EARTH monsters in your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: You can target 1 monster in either player's Graveyard; Special Summon that target to your side of the field. If this card leaves the field, skip the Battle Phase of your next turn. [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121102110403/yugioh/images/thumb/8/8e/MoulinglaciatheElementalLord-ABYR-EN-SR-1E.png/300px-MoulinglaciatheElementalLord-ABYR-EN-SR-1E.png[/img] Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by having exactly 5 WATER monsters in your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Discard 2 random cards from your opponent's hand (or their entire hand, if less than 2). You can only use the effect of "Moulinglacia the Elemental Lord" once per turn. If this card leaves the field, skip the Battle Phase of your next turn. [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121111131558/yugioh/images/thumb/9/99/PyrorextheElementalLord-CBLZ-JP-SR.png/300px-PyrorextheElementalLord-CBLZ-JP-SR.png[/img] Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by having exactly 5 FIRE monsters in your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; destroy it, and if you do, inflict damage to both players equal to half of its original ATK. You can only use the effect of "Pyrorex the Elemental Lord" once per turn. If this card leaves the field, skip the Battle Phase of your next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I would definitely say that Pyro got the short end of the stick as far as abilities go. You can't really let him sit in your hand for the right time to use his effect unless you have a lot of banish/grave manipulation effects, so you will end up usually popping something you didn't want to, and then taking damage for it in the process. Grandsoil can be seen as having the same problem with its revival effect, but if you don't have a horrible deck you're going to bring back something at least semi-useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows92 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I like that they are basing the effects of the E -Lords on banned or previously banned cards. Grandsoil = Monster Reborn Moulanglacia = Deliquent Duo Pyrorex(Godzilla) = Ring of Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Something tells me Konami don't want FIRE to be the best at anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 The fact that Moulinglacia has a cheap searcher makes it leaps and bounds better than the others. FIRE has so many easier ways to get cheap beaters, burn and removal than Pyrorex. Grandsoil's stackable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1353090126' post='6071144'] Something tells me Konami don't want FIRE to be the best at anything. [/quote] [s]They're the best at Synchros nowadays[/s] They realized they screwed up hard with Moulin, so they made Pyrorex terrible to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 @Chris - Says the guy who hasn't read Fire Fist and most likely Fire Kings too... Elemental Lord wise, I'll agree with you. Only the artwork on Godzilla is awesome. Other than that, he's really not worth running. Mouglin has Frogs, Mermails, and Atlanteans that can make use of him, search him, and summon him and is arguably the most broken of the 3 because he'll just see more play. Grandsoil has Rock Stun, Karakuri, Machinas, and Geargia, of chich it doesn't look good in Karakuri, Machina and Geargia. It also has TelePsychics, but then it becomes cloggy and your most reliable form of getting a win other than the derpy Axon Kicker fusion. Naturias...idk. There's just not that many EARTH based decks or decks that run enough EARTH monsters that make Grandsoil worth the space and those that do make space worthy of this card, are usually trampled by other meta decks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 You can search pyrorex with lavalval chain and make that chain off wolfberk or stuff,but that's probably a terribad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Lavals can play the Pyrorex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Can =/= Want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Most of the current FIRE archetypes don't even need this to compete. Fire Fists are stupid whether or not they give them this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Can we ban Moulinglacia already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Despite the fact these were proven to also be variants of the Spiritual Arts, in addition to existing banned cards~ I [i]REALLY[/i] hope they don't make a LIGHT or DARK version. [quote name='みゆきサン' timestamp='1353096592' post='6071247'] Can we ban Moulinglacia already? [/quote] Dragoons also exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I kinda like them. Grandsoil is kinda cool in X-Sabers, though not necessary. Moulin Glacia is cheap, but I like cheap WATER things that deal with your hand. I haven't tested Pyrorex yet, but it looks a little underwhelming. Lavals can probably tech it, but I'm not sure about other decks. The WIND one will probably have a Feather Duster/Giant Trunade effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Shadows92' timestamp='1353089428' post='6071137'] I like that they are basing the effects of the E -Lords on banned or previously banned cards. Grandsoil = Monster Reborn Moulanglacia = Deliquent Duo Pyrorex(Godzilla) = Ring of Destruction [/quote] Nah, it's the Spiritual Attribute Arts, Spiritual Water Art - Aoi tributes a water to look at your opponents hand and discard 1, Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai tributes a fire to inflict damage and idk what Spiritual Earth Art is but I assume it's similar. Anyway Moulinglacia is broken, Grandsoil is good but the hardest to get out and Pyrorex would be amazing if the effect was less mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1353104546' post='6071356'] idk what Spiritual Earth Art is but I assume it's similar. [/quote] It SS's a level 4 or lower EARTH from your Grave that isn't the tributed monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1353104546' post='6071356'] Anyway Moulinglacia is broken [/quote] From what I've seen on DN, it's so broken that no one realises not to play it vs DWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnoMan Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Fire already has decks which dumps massive amounts of monsters into the graveyard, with good graveyard control too. It should be no surprise that the element that's easiest to summon is also the weakest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='DunnoMan' timestamp='1322207582' post='6071390'] Fire already has decks which dumps massive amounts of monsters into the graveyard, with good graveyard control too. It should be no surprise that the element that's easiest to summon is also the weakest. [/quote] I respectfully disagree. WATER has the easiest time due to the Frog engine and Ronintoadin's easy adjustment. EARTH doesn't dump things by itself, but natural plays with Serene Psychic Witch, XX-Saber Emmersblade and Geargiarsenal will eventually satisfy the requirement. Laval can adjust the numbers with Dragon and Lakeside Lady, but it's more likely to go completely berserk and dump everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I can't wait for the WIND one that put targets on the bottom of the Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vz186pjY0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1353094064' post='6071214'] Can =/= Want to [/quote] Why wouldn't you want to play it? It's just another giant boss monster. There's no reason not to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1353176581' post='6071901'] Why wouldn't you want to play it? It's just another giant boss monster. There's no reason not to run it. [/quote] Laval Synchros >> Pyrorex. Essentially, you want as few cards as possible between you and Molten Trasmission Field and Rekindling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1353176581' post='6071901'] Why wouldn't you want to play it? It's just another giant boss monster. There's no reason not to run it. [/quote] You'd only play Pyrotex to either troll around or...is there another reason besides trolling with him? And yeah, Lavals can get Quasar or mass Synchros over 1 Pyrotex, even if he's spalshed in. He's just...what Wildflame said: [quote name='Wildflame' timestamp='1353104349' post='6071353'] it looks a little underwhelming. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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