Mehmani Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 In a very interesting turn of events, the next moderator of Custom Cards will likely be decided by popular vote. I feel that an issue of such magnitude and significance warrants discussion outside the ruling class of this site. So have at it. What do you think will happen and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well...it always comes down to who's most popular anyway. The more important thing is that s*** gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gαr Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Most of the most active card makers are inexperienced with how exactly YCM works. Though, I personally think Sora or Maxx seem like logical choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Pretty much whoever is most popular and most respected around the site is likely to get the job. Becuase thats pretty much how democracy works, whoever is the most liked gets the power. As for improving the section, so long as someone who gives a damn about the site gets the job, then improvements should be made. The foundations are there, they just need fine tuning. Also, this seems far fetched, but if it is coming down to public vote, then what if someone creates enough alts to win it? Its far-feteched that anyone would bother attempting that, but has any steps been taken to prevent that? (this is just for my own self curiosity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I remember Zanda, Striker and Neo all being interested in the moderator position. Any one of them would be fine imo as long as they stay active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 The reason I'm doing this is because I trust the RC community to vote with their heads. We are an articulate and intelligent bunch, remember. We vote on policy, not popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Has there ever been a mod that was not made a mod after a bunch of people said said person should be a mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Looool, if it comes to public votes, then I'm pretty much screwed. Anyways, there aren't enough people in RC who know us, the candidates, well enough to actually cast a proper vote in my opinion, except a handful of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 TBQH if it came for a vote and I could vote for anyone I would probably vote Chance as he seems knowledgable, mature and active like few other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I don't know anybody who could possibly moderate this section. I don't spend as much time in it as I used to. Honestly, I have no clue who I would vote for because of the exact reason above, but I can only hope that the person who gets 'elected' actually knows what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 It sounds good in theory but actually pretty crumby in practice. Letting the population voice their concerns and listening to what they have to say is all well and good, but letting them have final say is no good. Most of the time the popular decision and the best decision are one and the same. Once in a while, it's not. In there lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Can we like, do this sort of like a republic instead? -.- You know, have the popular vote and let members voice their concerns; who they want to mod and why. Then have the moderating team choose. Taking into account the opinions of the YCM populace, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354316797' post='6081917'] Can we like, do this sort of like a republic instead? -.- You know, have the popular vote and let members voice their concerns; who they want to mod and why. Then have the moderating team choose. Taking into account the opinions of the YCM populace, of course. [/quote] This is how we picked the mod for Your Deck, and some other mod I honestly can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1354317205' post='6081921'] This is how we picked the mod for Your Deck, and some other mod I honestly can't remember. [/quote]evilfusion for Your Deck and Legend Zero & Miror for General, I'm assuming. Miror wasn't all that good, but that's mainly because he didn't want to be a mod. On the other hand evilfusion and LZ have been great choices. So I'd say that's how we should go about doing it now. In either case, is there a thread for voting for this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354316797' post='6081917'] Can we like, do this sort of like a republic instead? -.- You know, have the popular vote and let members voice their concerns; who they want to mod and why. Then have the moderating team choose. Taking into account the opinions of the YCM populace, of course. [/quote] I was just about to post that Yeah that or have an electoral college of sorts with different sub-forums having different numbers of electoral votes. Soon we would have actual campaigns with gerrymandering and illegal votes soon dominating the status bar every election! And then the points would become relevant for campaign purposes and only the richest of mem-*shot* But seriously, what Agro said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 The thing is, that unlike what this thread would lead you to believe, members' opinion would probably not have much of a say once the matter actually needs to get done: No matter how popular the member may be or what reasons you may find for them to be good choices. If they're not mod material, they won't go up. If they are in fact mod material, they would probably be brought up by the electors themselves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Excalibur-sama' timestamp='1354317810' post='6081930'] The thing is, that unlike what this thread would lead you to believe, members' opinion would probably not have much of a say once the matter actually needs to get done: No matter how popular the member may be or what reasons you may find for them to be good choices. If they're not mod material, they won't go up. If they are in fact mod material, they would probably be brought up by the electors themselves anyway. [/quote]I think that... wait, when did you become a mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354318080' post='6081937'] I think that... wait, when did you become a mod? [/quote] Opal needed backup because college, stuff happened, I got promoted. Then again, since it's C&O, you could hardly say I'm a mod at all. o,o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote]In either case, is there a thread for voting for this yet? [/quote] Not as far as I can tell. There's just a Moderator Application topic in CC: [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/293607-custom-cards-moderator-application-thread/"]http://forum.yugiohc...ication-thread/[/url] The next logical question is "when does voting begin?" in which case I'd say "ask Mik I guess." [quote]The thing is, that unlike what this thread would lead you to believe, members' opinion would probably not have much of a say once the matter actually needs to get done: No matter how popular the member may be or what reasons you may find for them to be good choices.[/quote] ... Is it? Honestly, I agree with that mentality, but I kind of also wanna see Mik's plan through to the end just so he'll shut up about democracy and fairness and stuff. Best case scenario: We get an excellent new CC mod. Worst case scenario: We get a terrible CC mod and I get to gloat about being right, which I enjoy doing. [quote]I think that... wait, when did you become a mod? [/quote] 3:48 PM today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Makes sense. Congrats... I think. Anyway, there is the other way around we could do this. Instead of popular vote into mods choosing, we could do mods choosing candidates for popular vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354318445' post='6081947'] Makes sense. Congrats... I think. Anyway, there is the other way around we could do this. Instead of popular vote into mods choosing, we could do mods choosing candidates for popular vote. [/quote] In the end, that's basically asking for members' opinion on the matter. Which is what is usually done anyway, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 The problem with voting is the same with American voting....people vote for the wrong reasons. This will actually let us know if most members are sheep or smart, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 [quote name='Excalibur-sama' timestamp='1354318887' post='6081953'] In the end, that's basically asking for members' opinion on the matter. Which is what is usually done anyway, isn't it? [/quote] Yet members' options would be limited, which does not produce true opinions. That's just my two sense on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 You know there is a nice way to do this. Have members vote, but if they vote they MUST write a one paragraph essay of reasons that qualifies said member of receiving modhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354318445' post='6081947'] Instead of popular vote into mods choosing, we could do mods choosing candidates for popular vote. [/quote] The problem is mod's activity. I honestly don't post in any of the CC sections so I don't know who'd be a good person for the section (allegedly). A bunch of other mods are in the same boat. We can receive a list of people who need to be investigated and go ahead and do that, but conjuring up a list out of nothing is something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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