Lunar Origins Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121004142542/yugioh/images/thumb/c/c1/GorztheEmissaryofDarkness-LCYW-EN-UR-1E.jpg/300px-GorztheEmissaryofDarkness-LCYW-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img] why are u still not banned k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Because it brainwashed the minds of Konami to destroy the world... ...of card gamesBecause it brainwashed the minds of Konami to destroy the world... ...of card games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I actually like the mindset it brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1354499600' post='6083720'] I actually like the mindset it brings to the table. [/quote] The mindset is fine. But the rest of this card is f*cking broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 One should not be rewarded for getting hit, unless if one were a sadomasochist. Does Konami support Sadomasochism? If so, then they support Gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It's honestly not that bad; it's a necessary evil. Slows down/stops OTKs. Maybe if Konami stopped pumping out broken decks that swing for game 12 seconds after drawing their first card, this wouldn't be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think it's almost needed to balance the power creep. Seriously, I'd rather not lose to 3 Abyssmegalo and a Moulinglacia or the Shock Lock. At least this gives you a fighting chance. 4 Formats ago it was too broken, but since like Plant Synchro I'd rather have this as an out than have nothing and lose to OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='TheKaitoKid' timestamp='1354500824' post='6083733'] It's honestly not that bad; it's a necessary evil. Slows down/stops OTKs. Maybe if Konami stopped pumping out broken decks that swing for game 12 seconds after drawing their first card, this wouldn't be necessary. [/quote] Battle Fader/Scarecrow can also stop OTKs. The difference between them is that they aren't an extremely easy summonable giant beatstick that also can create a Token which is a target for Honest. Oh, and not to mention it's DARK for Chaos and Dark Armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='みゆきサン' timestamp='1354501004' post='6083738'] Battle Fader/Scarecrow can also stop OTKs. The difference between them is that they aren't an extremely easy summonable giant beatstick that also can create a Token which is a target for Honest. [/quote] Gorz is broken but Honest is a terrible argument to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='TheKaitoKid' timestamp='1354500824' post='6083733'] It's honestly not that bad; it's a necessary evil. Slows down/stops OTKs. [/quote] Trag does this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Because Konami doesn't see this as a problem. Problem being that it's too powerful for the meta. Which it unfortunately isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Trag slows it down more than it stops it. Gorz 9/10 puts a halt to the shenanigans entirely. I personally don't like it for the same reason's you guys don't but I can see why it's still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='TheKaitoKid' timestamp='1354502040' post='6083762'] Trag slows it down more than it stops it. Gorz 9/10 puts a halt to the shenanigans entirely. I personally don't like it for the same reason's you guys don't but I can see why it's still around. [/quote] Slowing it down is enough for a comeback. If you can't make the comeback your opponent outplayed you more than likely in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd much rather have Tragoedia @ 3 than this @ 1. Mainly because Tragoedia is so f*cking kawaii. And he doesn't auto-beat over everything and laugh at you and reward you for not engaging in P2P interaction, because his entire effect does just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Opponent goes to win, because you played badly, and had to lose because of- WAIT, NO, YOU HAD GORZ. Also, I think Gorz was made by Kanea West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1354511489' post='6083932'] Opponent goes to win, because you played badly, and had to lose because of- WAIT, NO, YOU HAD GORZ. Also, I think Gorz was made by Kanea West [/quote] this so much this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1354511489' post='6083932'] Opponent goes to win, because you played badly, and had to lose because of- WAIT, NO, YOU HAD GORZ. Also, I think Gorz was made by Kanea West [/quote]Make it official. Photoshop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 ...Fine But someone find me a screenshot of DN, where someone was losing, but then won, because they Summoned Gorz and attacked for game with it. Reason being, the line for it will make so much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1354512579' post='6083947'] ...Fine But someone find me a screenshot of DN, where someone was losing, but then won, because they Summoned Gorz and attacked for game with it. Reason being, the line for it will make so much more sense. [/quote]Can't you just photoshop Kanye's face on gorz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Master Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1354513334' post='6083955'] Can't you just photoshop Kanye's face on gorz? [/quote] I was thinking you could photoshop the card to look like Kanye was holding it. Then have him say something like, "Imma let you finish but, I summon Gorz." Or etc. OT: Bad card design in a game filled with bad card design. It's the hero Yu-Gi-Oh! deserves, but not the one it needs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Well in either case, it's not Gorz attacking for game, but... [img]http://i.imgur.com/V5iHJ.jpg[/img] Burn eff ftw[quote name='Justice Master' timestamp='1354513516' post='6083957'] It's the hero Yu-Gi-Oh! deserves, but not the one it needs right now. [/quote]Other way around for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekko1990 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Problem with Tragoedia is that unless you sit with 5 or more cards, you won't be able to deal with most stuff an otk is going to throw at you. Gorz is however on the broken side. Problem with him is his main body. If he had been a weak level 7 monster you could use him to stop otk's and hit them back with the token, however, you would not be able to use him in order to get two free hi atk beatsticks (in most cases with gorz killing the attacking monster allowing your token to kill something else). On the other side though, you can read most Gorz plays fairly easily, and if you suspect him there are plenty of ways to kill him after attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Alright, fine... I even decided to be silly and make him stretching from the card itself + gave him Gorz' hair: [img]http://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89711GorzFinish.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 That's actually great, Armz. Can I get just Kanye with the that hair and some sort of witty comment though? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I lost a closed pack tournament on here because my opponent had Gorz, and I attacked directly with Ancient Gear Golem. If they hadn't had Gorz, I would have won the next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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