Agro Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100517054029/yugioh/images/thumb/2/2d/MagicianofFaith-DLG1-EN-R-UE.jpg/300px-MagicianofFaith-DLG1-EN-R-UE.jpg[/img] What I said about Metamorphosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Ban reborn,rekindling and royal tribute first. Most importantly reborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Konami is about to do something to get rid of any chance of getting this back. Like how they just eliminated every reason to bring back Sinister Serpent and TIV with Mermanteans. Before them, I saw some users saying that those two should come back (or at least just Serpent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I heard prophecy run 3x apprentice all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 FOR-EEEEE-VER! OT: FOR-EEEEE-VER Banned. Broked and shtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [quote name='Kettleblack' timestamp='1355001556' post='6088490'] No chance. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STVB Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 no way in hell, liek mido9 said, youd have to ban every broken spell and that still wont be enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [quote name='STVB' timestamp='1355010147' post='6088586'] no way in hell, liek mido9 said, youd have to ban every broken spell and that still wont be enough [/quote] What about just banning every spell? ?.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [quote name='♥ D.A._Siegfried ♥' timestamp='1355010270' post='6088588'] What about just banning every spell? ?.? [/quote] What about just leaving this on the banned list? Y'all are some geniuses up in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 The card is only gamebreaking if there are gamebreaking spells. There aren't that many gamebreaking spells past what mido listed, if any more. Goat control had a lot of broken cards, but they were never cards you couldn't recover from after being hit with. Magician of Faith doesn't seem like one of those that you can't come back from, as long as the Spells that do do that aren't around (which they shouldn't anyway). I'd prefer this being back than Rekindling, Royal Tribute, and Reborn existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355011383' post='6088596'] The card is only gamebreaking if there are gamebreaking spells.[/quote] This. Which is the reason this is@0. Basically most of the Spells in the Limited section would need to be@0, in addition to a few others that are currently@3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1355013457' post='6088628'] This. Which is the reason this is@0. Basically most of the Spells in the Limited section would need to be@0, in addition to a few others that are currently@3. [/quote]I wouldn't say most of them. I mean, like, let me make a little list of the cards I would want higher on the list with this @1: Card Destruction Gateway of the Six Infernity Launcher Reborn Avarice Royal Tribute Rekindling There isn't many more that I'd be like "f*** NO" with. And even then it's hardly too much. It would definitely mean that people would be forced to try not to overextend even after Heavy Storm has been played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I can see them putting this back to 1 without changing the positions of any of those cards flip effects too slow for meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 MONEY CARD [/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='みゆきサン' timestamp='1355015495' post='6088645'] MONEY CARD [/quote]Everyone doesn't have this card somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1355015389' post='6088643'] I can see them putting this back to 1 without changing the positions of any of those cards flip effects too slow for meta [/quote] Ryko would like to have a word with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355011383' post='6088596'] The card is only gamebreaking if there are gamebreaking spells. [/quote] no. that's like saying rekindling wouldn't broken if there aren't any fire monsters with 200 DEF, genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355017362' post='6088661'] Ryko would like to have a word with you. [/quote] too slow he's just there for recharge and charge anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='☆~Rin-chan~☆' timestamp='1355017989' post='6088668'] no. that's like saying rekindling wouldn't broken if there aren't any fire monsters with 200 DEF, genius [/quote]It wouldn't it would just be badly designed. A card isn't broken unless something breaks it. Even a balanced card can be broken by other cards. Technically speaking, Metamorphosis isn't unbalanced. It's a -1 that should be giving you a monster of a similar power level. Exterio just happens to be badly designed. EDIT: Just realized what thread I'm posting in. Even broken cards aren't that big a deal if you can come back from them pretty easily. Look at BLS during Goat Control format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355018338' post='6088671'] It wouldn't it would just be badly designed. A card isn't broken unless something breaks it. Even a balanced card can be broken by other cards. Technically speaking, Metamorphosis isn't unbalanced. It's a -1 that should be giving you a monster of a similar power level. Exterio just happens to be badly designed. [/quote] so we should bring Goyo back and ban every other monster in the game, hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='☆~Rin-chan~☆' timestamp='1355018443' post='6088672'] so we should bring Goyo back and ban every other monster in the game, hmm? [/quote]Goyo is a poorly made bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1355013700' post='6088629'] I wouldn't-[/quote] No, you read it wrong. Let me re-phrase, since I was a little sloppy; The Spells in Limited Cards, most of them are game breakers(Give then right scenario, which isn't rare). In addition to those, there are other Spells out there that are currently Unlimited, that would also need to be hit, if Magician were to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1355019119' post='6088680'] No, you read it wrong. Let me re-phrase, since I was a little sloppy; The Spells in Limited Cards, most of them are game breakers(Give then right scenario, which isn't rare). In addition to those, there are other Spells out there that are currently Unlimited, that would also need to be hit, if Magician were to come back. [/quote]But could you come back from them? Do they end the game if Magician adds them and you use them again? Not from what I can see. The majority of those cards are fine being used an extra time, especially considering how slow Magician is. Goat Control didn't worry about broken cards like Delinquent Duo or BLS because they could still make plays to come back from them, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1355001864' post='6088499'] Ban reborn,rekindling and royal tribute first. Most importantly reborn. [/quote] And Heavy Storm and Dark Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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