#Cut4Bieber

[Guest Halubaris Maphotika]

I don't know how to put this, but... obsession is a form of insanity. It requires help to remove it. You don't just stop being obsessed on your own, you know?

Actually I believe you can, there have been times where my "Dedication" as I called caused serious problems and I didn't realize it until someone opened my eyes. I don't believe that obsession is insanity.

 

 

Well, you're telling people who have lived out of similar situations that they are not seeing the situation the lived through correctly. Do you expect people to believe said people, or the one who's saying they're wrong? The latter seems unlikely, all things considered.

 

I did not say that. I said I don't think this girl is completely mental. They disagreed. Experiences differ and we all have our own theories on what is the problem.

 

"Truth hurts", some say. Or in this case, "your opinion, as opposed to the one of those who almost killed themselves, is insensitive."

 

See where I'm going with that?

 

It's funny because had they ignored my post, this debate never would have happened. Lies for positive thinking are worse than hurtful truths in my view.

 

Again, you don't realize what you're doing is wrong when you're obsessed. That's part of what being obsessed means. And you think that she is obsessed, so she can't understand what she is doing wrong...

 

 

...You are, but try not to contradict yourself in the process~

 

Being obsessed means overly devoting yourself to thing of some sorts. She believes she is right. Unless we teach her why she is wrong with proper logic and debate she will never change and no amount of therapy will change and will do.

 

Err... That's just what you said:

I don't believe she needs a shrink or needs to get some serious help. I think she just needs to understand that what she is doing is wrong.

 

That rephrasing just now wasn't a sugarcoat at all, really. It sounds just as insensitive. Or as you put it, "blunt and honest".

 

Well then I ain't good at being nice in situations like this. I have had this attitude with at least three people who were either cutting or borderline suicidal. I went all out boot camp on them and at least 2 changed there ways and now live a happy life. I believe sympathy doesn't help at all.

 

Well, again. Obsession is crazy. Obsessing is not being an idiot, or not *just* being an idiot. You can't help it.

 

Again we seem to have different ideas of obsession.

 

Cutting yourself is not, no matter how you look at it, an insane reaction. If you actually want to assume you took off with a sane person, the most correct way of seeing this, from the way I see it; is that the "distress of the issue" drove her to an insane reaction.

 

I am classifying insane with mental disorder which is probably the fault that I made which caused this to happen. However, calling her insane is no better than calling her stupid and both are insults in their own right.

 

I understand where you're coming from, and hence I took the time to answer this thoroughly.

 

Thank you by the way.

 

Noted, didn't even see that anyway.

 

 

See, these things you're saying. You're saying you had no ill intent all along and that you actually do care, and that's fine. But you're also saying that you were being blunt and made a rude comment for the hell of it. Those things, I think, are considered insensitive, even if you do care in the end...

 

I would say my opinion on sensitivity but I am not in the mood for a debate on a completely different scale.

 

"Get help" doesn't necessarily mean professional help, I think you also misunderstood that bit.

 

That I did.

Things from your quote that I took out were things that I realized were right.

[Guest Yan-Tsundere Barrel]

Should I lock this? By now I assume all this banter is pointless.

[Susie]

Should I lock this? By now I assume all this banter is pointless.

 

I agree to this

[Guest Yan-Tsundere Barrel]

Very well. Mugen, lock this please.

[Mugendramon]

Beat you to it ;D