#Cut4Bieber

[Cin]

As a former self harmer (for nearly 2 years) I'm disgusted that people feel that have to hurt themself for such an idiotic reason. Atleast he's told them to stop.

But it is horrible how far people are wiling to go someone who doesn't even know they exist.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

Well if you call your fans a stupid name like "Beliebers" then you're gonna have stupid fans. :\

 

I have no sympathy for any of his fans who actually did cut/kill themselves over this because it was their own stupid decision to do so.

 

you should feel sympathy because these people are probably not in a sound state of mind. you should feel sympathy because people are hurting themselves and likely need help.

 

you dont have to agree with them for even a second or condone their actions. but blaming people for doing something when theyre in a bad state of mind is messed up.

[Limited Edition KING]

you should feel sympathy because these people are probably not in a sound state of mind. you should feel sympathy because people are hurting themselves and likely need help.

 

you dont have to agree with them for even a second or condone their actions. but blaming people for doing something when theyre in a bad state of mind is messed up.

 

You see the thing with your argument is that most of his fans would believe they were in the right state of mind because "They are doing this for him". They were doing it for Justin because of the trend that was created by internet trolls and they and their obsessive selves fell for it. They did this on their own decision and I have no sympathy for them because of that. If they were mentally unstable or have a mental problem then yes I might have been more sympathetic, but being an obsessed fan does not count as mentally unstable in my opinion.

 

And to be honest, I feel that JB fans had this (and the hair removal incident awhile back) coming to them with the way they act on twitter, saying that Bieber has the best fans all the time, talking about how much better they are than everyone else and that they are 'taking over twitter' and when they do get the most trending topics they say "We're taking over the world". And that just makes me uncomfortable because there are so many of his fans that could go to the lengths of actually starting a war because of their obsessiveness towards him. You've seen that they've gone to lengths of cutting (and a small few, killing) themselves who could imagine how much further they could go if they really desperately wanted to? Yes I'm probably exaggerating this a bit too much but that's my opinion.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

You see the thing with your argument is that most of his fans would believe they were in the right state of mind because "They are doing this for him". They were doing it for Justin because of the trend that was created by internet trolls and they and their obsessive selves fell for it. They did this on their own decision and I have no sympathy for them because of that. If they were mentally unstable or have a mental problem then yes I might have been more sympathetic, but being an obsessed fan does not count as mentally unstable in my opinion.

 

And to be honest, I feel that JB fans had this (and the hair removal incident awhile back) coming to them with the way they act on twitter, saying that Bieber has the best fans all the time, talking about how much better they are than everyone else and that they are 'taking over twitter' and when they do get the most trending topics they say "We're taking over the world". And that just makes me uncomfortable because there are so many of his fans that could go to the lengths of actually starting a war because of their obsessiveness towards him. You've seen that they've gone to lengths of cutting (and a small few, killing) themselves who could imagine how much further they could go if they really desperately wanted to? Yes I'm probably exaggerating this a bit too much but that's my opinion.

 

ummmmmmm no. no to everything youve just said. these people are clearly pretty delusional because, speaking from experience, if you arent mentally disturbed than cutting yourself isnt something you can just DO. a person of sound mind, if they even get far enough to attempt it, is gonna stop that s*** pretty quickly because the normal human reaction to pain is to avoid it. just because their delusion is about.....a pop star you dont like, that suddenly means it doesnt matter anymore? thats not true and innapropriate. theyre still human beings. they still need help and support. attitudes like this, where people with mental health problems need to meet requirements to be treated (like not being a preteen girl who likes dumb pop star) is a huge issue and partly why mental health problems are difficult to treat.

 

anyways

 

OT: truly truly an awful thing to have happen. i hope everyone gets the help they need.

 

and if this turns out to be a hoax, this is the most poorly thought out "joke" ive ever seen.

[ihop]

Well I guess this is natural selection at work.

 

Anyway, I have absolutely no sympathy for any girl who does this, there's no point self-harming themselves to get any point across, let alone a ridiculous one like this. Justin Bieber has every right to smoke weed if he wants to and nobody should stop him doing it, particularly in this way which is just guilt-tripping and helps nobody.

[Guest Halubaris Maphotika]

I support Cut4Bieber. Less idiots in the world.

 

The girl with the blood drenched arm doesn't really need help. She is just an idiot.

 

And in relation to Raine's post. Many people cut themselves because the pain is a form of fire VS fire against the mental pain they face from a certain situation and is perfectly sane. Many people don't shy away from pain like most and some even embrace it, like masochist's. You made it seem like every normal human being would shy from pain when this is not true.

[BehindTheMask]

it's f***ed up.

 

especially because the kid can't sing and he's turned into such an unappreciative prick

 

So people harming themselves is especially messed up because of a persons music ability....and NOT their obsession? Oh. Okay. See here I was thinking it was messed up because multitudes of people harmed themselves for a star. But no, its all about one persons opinion of how he sings...Oh wait.

 

 

Wait, what's this "turned into" crap? You mean he was actually a human before this?

 

Yes, Justin Beiber is a human like you are a human, like I am a human like Hitler was a human, like the pope is a human. Just because you like/dislike someone doesnt make them any more/less human. Stop being such an idiot. "Oh hey lets attack justin beiber just its totally mainstream." Seriously, you are a scumbag.

 

I saw this on facebook yesterday, kinda f***ed. I mean, what the hell people? I want to see Bieber's reaction, though Bieber is the most lifeless person in the world so his reaction will probably be "Oh that's werid", cause I doubt this is going to make him stop, just think "I got some f***ed up fans dawg, let's smoke more pot!" Bieber probably doesn't give a crap about this, and if he does, I would like to see his reply.

 

>lol bieber is lifeless

>lol bieber is a potsmoker, lets attack his character more

> Doesnt realize Beiber told fans to stop cutting

> Doesnt realize Beiber actually supports charities

 

List:

• Children's Miracle Network Hospitals
  
• City of Hope
  
• Cure Duchenne
  
• Food Bank For New York City
  
• Give Back Hollywood Foundation
  
• GRAMMY Foundation
  
• It Gets Better Project
  

• Jumpstart
  
• KaBOOM!
  
• Musicians on Call
  
• Pencils of Promise
  
• Red Cross
  
• Usher's New Look Foundation
  

Source:

http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/justin-bieber

 

I support Cut4Bieber. Less idiots in the world.

 

The girl with the blood drenched arm doesn't really need help. She is just an idiot.

 

And in relation to Raine's post. Many people cut themselves because the pain is a form of fire VS fire against the mental pain they face from a certain situation and is perfectly sane. Many people don't shy away from pain like most and some even embrace it, like masochist's. You made it seem like every normal human being would shy from pain when this is not true.

 

Oh look, its the "woe is me" poster. So, you support people harming themselves because of instead of helping them. Its not like there is such thing as therapy, drugs, etc etc.

 

Secondly, I'm pretty sure if someone has harmed themself to drench their arm in blood, then they arent an idiot. They probably need some type of psychiatric help. I mean, ya know...its like you said "Many people cut themselves because the pain is a form of fire VS fire against the mental pain they face from a certain situation and is perfectly sane. "

 

So which one is it, is she an idiot, or is she perfectly sane? A sane person wouldnt harm themselves if other alternatives exist(which in this case exists).

[Guest Josh Black]

Big long amazing post

And that sums up just about every opinion I have on the subject.

 

It really disturbs me how many people seem to think they have the right to decide who deserves to die off and who deserves to live, and who's human and not.

 

But hey, calling someone an idiot is far worse than thinking you have the right to decide lives, totally.

[Akira]

I have to say I'm kind of aroused by the idea of teenage girls performing such an act of extremism due to their infatuation with the idol that is Bieber. I wonder what else they could be convinced to do.

[Guest Admiral Remo]

If these people won't take care of themselves, why bother saving them?

 

I'd rather just save my energy for people who might be able to understand the language of reason

[Guest Halubaris Maphotika]

So which one is it, is she an idiot, or is she perfectly sane? A sane person wouldnt harm themselves if other alternatives exist(which in this case exists).

Actually cutting oneself over a situation IS sane, I have already expressed this view before. Not all of them need psychiatric help, what you have witnessed is not a mental issue but is merely an obsession going to some degree of injury. It is obvious that you and I have different views on what is sane and what isn't so I won't continue this debate as it will only go in circles. People do stupid sh*t all the time and this is one of them. Injury does not decide normalcy. Some inflict pain on themselves and that is a normalcy unless it is propagated by delusions, or unnatural behavior that endangers the lives of people. I see no reason to believe that this girl is insane or that this girl needs psychiatric help. I see a girl who believes she is doing the right thing with what she is doing which (Although what she is doing is NOT the right thing) causes her to cut herself.

 

How is this any different from those ho would get themselves in harms way in order to do what they feel is right? Are they also mentally unstable?

 

Actually I never really meant the "I support bieber" thing, it was actually a joke for those with really dark comedy tastes.

[Death Metal]

She is clearly insane. Any person in their right mind wouldn't do this to themselves over something so petty.

[LeguBrit]

Cutting yourself is pointless. I should know, but I have gained a lot of respect for Bieber for getting a legal team on the instigator's dumbass.

 

I do think that the people who actually did it should now be feeling really bad about it. They were dumb enough to continue what a terrible troll started, but I am sorry for the family of the 3 who killed themselves.

 

I also feel sorry for the "Beliebers" that didn't and are now on the non-incompetent side of the fence; they are being unfairly classified in the same category as the cutters.

 

This entire thing is a stupid joke that went WAY too far, and most of the blame goes to the troll, but the cutters have to shoulder some blame for actually carrying out the cuts and not using common sense.

 

In the end stuff like this just makes me lose all hope in the future of humanity.

[Guest Yan-Tsundere Barrel]

lose all hope in the future of humanity.

 

[LeguBrit]

@Yan-Tsundere Barrel:

 

[Guest Champion Iris]

As someone who cut themselves and was ready to kill herself, I can safely say that if you're able to cut yourself, you either need help or are a masochist or something like that.

 

When I was cutting myself, I was permanently depressed. I couldn't think "Oh maybe I should stop this." or "This isn't exactly reasonable." By saying the girls who did this deserve to die and couldn't possibly have anything wrong with their heads is extremely insensitive.

 

I was about to kill myself. I didn't think logically about it. I was mentally incapable of it. Think about it, these girls obviously idolized him enough to mutilate their arm / leg / whatever i didn't look at pictures enough to KILL themselves. That should tip you off that something was wrong with their mind. No one should be willing to cut themselves that much. Saying that they deserve to die is just... Heartless. I don't care if it is the internet. I don't care if you people are a******s. That's just wrong.

 

@Halubaris Maphotika

 

No, it isn't f***ing sane. You have to be either a masochist or extremely distraught in the head to be willing to do it.

 

Saying it's SANE to f***ing MUTILATE your arm / leg / whatever is just one of the STUPIDEST things I have ever seen. If an obsession goes THAT deep it is NOT SANE. It is something that NEEDS help BADLY.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

yes exactly. i am also someone who has self harmed and attempted suicide in the past. i can RECOGNIZE delusional patterns of thought because ive BEEN THERE. you dont stop and think "maybe this is too far". you dont care enough to try. the fact that their obsessive behavior is centered on a celebrity figure and not something more internal is irrelevant. and to any of you saying you dont care or are glad that actual real living human beings hurt and in some cases killed themselves because they were obviously disturbed, shut up. youre perpetuating the ideas and actions that allow this to continue to happen. youre part of the problem.

[Guest Halubaris Maphotika]

As someone who cut themselves and was ready to kill herself, I can safely say that if you're able to cut yourself, you either need help or are a masochist or something like that.

 

When I was cutting myself, I was permanently depressed. I couldn't think "Oh maybe I should stop this." or "This isn't exactly reasonable." By saying the girls who did this deserve to die and couldn't possibly have anything wrong with their heads is extremely insensitive.

 

I was about to kill myself. I didn't think logically about it. I was mentally incapable of it. Think about it, these girls obviously idolized him enough to mutilate their arm / leg / whatever i didn't look at pictures enough to KILL themselves. That should tip you off that something was wrong with their mind. No one should be willing to cut themselves that much. Saying that they deserve to die is just... Heartless. I don't care if it is the internet. I don't care if you people are a******s. That's just wrong.

 

@Halubaris Maphotika

 

No, it isn't f***ing sane. You have to be either a masochist or extremely distraught in the head to be willing to do it.

 

Saying it's SANE to f***ing MUTILATE your arm / leg / whatever is just one of the STUPIDEST things I have ever seen. If an obsession goes THAT deep it is NOT SANE. It is something that NEEDS help BADLY.

Masochism is not a mental disorder if that is what your implying, the injury needs help yes, but not the mind. You said you did not think logically and yet here you are. Do you honestly think that no reasonably sane person would do something as stupid as this? Really!? It's that improbable? No it isn't. Many people will disregard pain for a greater good if they have enough motivation and drive. There are religions in which people whip themselves constantly to absolve themselves of their sins. They is nothing wrong with their head, they just have a motivation and drive to do it, which is the religion they follow.

[Guest Josh Black]

Masochism is not a mental disorder if that is what your implying, the injury needs help yes, but not the mind. You said you did not think logically and yet here you are. Do you honestly think that no reasonably sane person would do something as stupid as this? Really!? It's that improbable? No it isn't. Many people will disregard pain for a greater good if they have enough motivation and drive. There are religions in which people whip themselves constantly to absolve themselves of their sins. They is nothing wrong with their head, they just have a motivation and drive to do it, which is the religion they follow.

She's past that, because you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what you read. She's saying that, back then, she WASN'T sane. But God forbid someone disagree with you, you just twist it when they touch it to say that you shouldn't give a f*** that people harm themselves on a regular occasion (Psst, there are better ways to be masochistic), and that people who cut themselves for Bieber deserve to die.

 

You are an example of everything wrong with mankind.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

Masochism is not a mental disorder if that is what your implying, the injury needs help yes, but not the mind. You said you did not think logically and yet here you are. Do you honestly think that no reasonably sane person would do something as stupid as this? Really!? It's that improbable? No it isn't. Many people will disregard pain for a greater good if they have enough motivation and drive. There are religions in which people whip themselves constantly to absolve themselves of their sins. They is nothing wrong with their head, they just have a motivation and drive to do it, which is the religion they follow.

 

except a lot of extremist religions prey on peoples insecurity and doubt to drive them to fanaticism? its called a cult dude and its been proven that people in cults often are not in a healthy state of mind while they are members and often need to be "deprogrammed" to function in normal society again.

 

there is a whole wealth of information on behavior like this and it all states that this isnt normal. its the symptom of disturbed thinking. youve had multiple survivors come in here and tell you that youre straight up wrong but that doesnt seem to mean anything to you.

you need to shut up because your posts on this matter are insensitive, harmful, and nonsensical. just leave if you need to. but either way stop it.

[Guest Champion Iris]

Masochism is not a mental disorder if that is what your implying, the injury needs help yes, but not the mind. You said you did not think logically and yet here you are. Do you honestly think that no reasonably sane person would do something as stupid as this? Really!? It's that improbable? No it isn't. Many people will disregard pain for a greater good if they have enough motivation and drive. There are religions in which people whip themselves constantly to absolve themselves of their sins. They is nothing wrong with their head, they just have a motivation and drive to do it, which is the religion they follow.

 

No, I said it's one of two reasons.

 

I didn't think logically. I think I've told the story before. Black SAVED me. I was going to kill myself until he did one thing no one else did. He gave a f***. He asked me privately what was wrong. He talked to me and actually cared. I was 3 days from killing myself. I was ready for it, I had goodbye notes written out to anyone I considered a friend. He f***ing saved my life and I didn't think logically at all.

 

Reasonably sane people won't kill themselves over something as silly as a pop star. They won't injure themselves until they die if they're REASONABLY SANE. CUTTING YOURSELF UNTIL YOU BLEED TO DEATH IS NOT f***ing REASONABLY SANE. Anyone who thinks it is is stupid. No if's and's or's but's about it. It ISN'T sane.

 

You are a terrible person, you know? There IS something wrong with their head if they can justify CUTTING THEMSELVES UNTIL THEY BLEED TO DEATH OVER A POP STAR. They needed help, but they didn't get it.

[Tourmaline]

You are an example of everything wrong with mankind.

 

Attacking him about his view isn't virtuous, either. He's not an absolutely terrible person nor should his quality as a person be attacked. Some people think this sort of quote is an example of a bad quality itself, and hatred shouldn't be expressed before an attempt to understand.

 

Self-mutilation is done in times of great distress, negating some effects of Depression or depressive phases at the cost of that mutilation, of my knowledge. If somebody hurts themself to such an extreme, it is because they are undeniably deluded from their healthy mindset. If there is no pain to extinguish, there is no purpose to seeking a physiological anesthetic.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

Attacking him about his view isn't virtuous, either. He's not an absolutely terrible person nor should his quality as a person be attacked. Some people think this sort of quote is an example of a bad quality itself, and hatred shouldn't be expressed before an attempt to understand.

 

Self-mutilation is done in times of great distress, negating some effects of Depression or depressive phases at the cost of that mutilation, of my knowledge. If somebody hurts themself to such an extreme, it is because they are undeniably deluded from their healthy mindset. If there is no pain to extinguish, there is no purpose to seeking a physiological anesthetic.

 

i for one am comfortable with calling people awful if their words actions or ideas directly lead to other people being harmed. like in this instance.

[Guest Halubaris Maphotika]

No, I said it's one of two reasons.

 

I didn't think logically. I think I've told the story before. Black SAVED me. I was going to kill myself until he did one thing no one else did. He gave a f***. He asked me privately what was wrong. He talked to me and actually cared. I was 3 days from killing myself. I was ready for it, I had goodbye notes written out to anyone I considered a friend. He f***ing saved my life and I didn't think logically at all.

 

Reasonably sane people won't kill themselves over something as silly as a pop star. They won't injure themselves until they die if they're REASONABLY SANE. CUTTING YOURSELF UNTIL YOU BLEED TO DEATH IS NOT f***ing REASONABLY SANE. Anyone who thinks it is is stupid. No if's and's or's but's about it. It ISN'T sane.

 

You are a terrible person, you know? There IS something wrong with their head if they can justify CUTTING THEMSELVES UNTIL THEY BLEED TO DEATH OVER A POP STAR. They needed help, but they didn't get it.

Oi vey... She is not in the frame of mind, this is true. That is not what I am debating however. This whole point of me arguing was it's classification and a mental disorder which it is not in my view. Suicide is a reasonably sane response to extreme distress and depression from an event. Unless it is clinical, it is not a mental disorder. I just think she overreacted and was overly obsessed with a popstar and took this event too far. Whatever, you people try my patience. I don't think any of us have really understood each others standpoints and have just been bickering all day. I think I should end this here because I am getting nowhere and my argument was lost in a see of sensitivity to a comment that had nothing to do with the rest of my argument.

except a lot of extremist religions prey on peoples insecurity and doubt to drive them to fanaticism? its called a cult dude and its been proven that people in cults often are not in a healthy state of mind while they are members and often need to be "deprogrammed" to function in normal society again.

 

there is a whole wealth of information on behavior like this and it all states that this isnt normal. its the symptom of disturbed thinking. youve had multiple survivors come in here and tell you that youre straight up wrong but that doesnt seem to mean anything to you.

you need to shut up because your posts on this matter are insensitive, harmful, and nonsensical. just leave if you need to. but either way stop it.

Umm, no. I am not being insensitive, I am being blunt and honest. I don't believe she needs a shrink or needs to get some serious help. I think she just needs to understand that what she is doing is wrong. Telling me I am straight up wrong without giving proper reasoning is no way to change my mind. Although many users on here have displayed good arguments, am I not allowed to defend my opinion? I am not going to sugarcoat it and say "Well, I don't think she really needs that as I just feel she doesn't quite understand the problem." I really think she is just being an idiot about the whole thing. What is her drive and motivation? Her obsession with Justin Bieber. Once again, you people think because I use the word stupid that I couldn't give less of a damn about her which is wrong because I do, and one *Obviously taken too seriously* comment that I made won't change the fact that I care anyways. I just do not think she has a mental illness. I think she ain't thinking straight due to the distress of the issue, but that is a sane reaction to things. Distress drives perfectly normal humans to do these things. I am starting to get the feeling that neither understand each others arguments.

She's past that, because you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what you read. She's saying that, back then, she WASN'T sane. But God forbid someone disagree with you, you just twist it when they touch it to say that you shouldn't give a f*** that people harm themselves on a regular occasion (Psst, there are better ways to be masochistic), and that people who cut themselves for Bieber deserve to die.

 

You are an example of everything wrong with mankind.

You need to cam down first of all. I am once again going to say that what I said about "Less idiots in the world" was not my honest opinion and had no relation to my overall argument. This movement is stupid, the idea was stupid, the people who participate in it are stupid in my honest opinion, then again that is just me being blunt I guess. If the parents will not fix the problem themselves then no matter what happens sh*t like this will happen again. I didn't twist anything, I misread what she wrote and was addressing it in case I was right, I was wrong. I didn't twist anything, did you read the part where I wrote "If that is what you mean". I didn't claim that was her opinion in any way. Call me whatever you want I really don't care, I simply addressed my opinion that what she has done, she was perfectly in sound mind and did not have a clinical mental illness, that was it. You all took that, got offended and then blasted me with cps lock in order to make me change my ways which isn't working. You think I don't care about this because of one comment that was not intended to mean anything. You think I don't care because I don't think there is something wrong with her in the head? You think I don't care because I called her stupid? No, that was me being blunt. All we need is someone to go to her and explain to her why what she is doing is wrong and help ease the process of her obsession and not send her to a mental institution or get her a therapist. Now, this may be because I...

1. Don't trust therapists

2. Think they are vile and untrustworthy

3. Have a personal grudge against them

but I do not believe she really needs one.

[Mugendramon]

Well, there are several things I would like to point out about what you just said which kind of strike me as off. You've contradicted yourself in several occasions. Let's see...

 

Unless it is clinical, it is not a mental disorder.

 

And what exactly is it that makes it clinical? That a psychiatrist deems it so? Because mind you, a mental disorder can't be diagnosed by your average hospital doctor. It would be actually diagnosed by a therapist. But wait...

 

You said you:

"1. Don't trust therapists

2. Think they are vile and untrustworthy"

 

So how can you trust anything being clinical?

 

I just think she overreacted and was overly obsessed with a popstar and took this event too far.

 

I don't know how to put this, but... obsession is a form of insanity. It requires help to remove it. You don't just stop being obsessed on your own, you know?

 

Whatever, you people try my patience. I don't think any of us have really understood each others standpoints and have just been bickering all day. I think I should end this here because I am getting nowhere and my argument was lost in a see of sensitivity to a comment that had nothing to do with the rest of my argument.

 

Well, you're telling people who have lived out of similar situations that they are not seeing the situation the lived through correctly. Do you expect people to believe said people, or the one who's saying they're wrong? The latter seems unlikely, all things considered.

 

I am not being insensitive, I am being blunt and honest.

 

"Truth hurts", some say. Or in this case, "your opinion, as opposed to the one of those who almost killed themselves, is insensitive."

 

See where I'm going with that?

 

I don't believe she needs a shrink or needs to get some serious help. I think she just needs to understand that what she is doing is wrong.

 

Again, you don't realize what you're doing is wrong when you're obsessed. That's part of what being obsessed means. And you think that she is obsessed, so she can't understand what she is doing wrong...

 

Telling me I am straight up wrong without giving proper reasoning is no way to change my mind. Although many users on here have displayed good arguments, am I not allowed to defend my opinion?

 

...You are, but try not to contradict yourself in the process~

 

I am not going to sugarcoat it and say "Well, I don't think she really needs that as I just feel she doesn't quite understand the problem."

 

Err... That's just what you said:

"I don't believe she needs a shrink or needs to get some serious help. I think she just needs to understand that what she is doing is wrong."

 

That rephrasing just now wasn't a sugarcoat at all, really. It sounds just as insensitive. Or as you put it, "blunt and honest".

 

I really think she is just being an idiot about the whole thing. What is her drive and motivation? Her obsession with Justin Bieber.

 

Well, again. Obsession is crazy. Obsessing is not being an idiot, or not *just* being an idiot. You can't help it.

 

I just do not think she has a mental illness. I think she ain't thinking straight due to the distress of the issue, but that is a sane reaction to things. Distress drives perfectly normal humans to do these things.

 

Cutting yourself is not, no matter how you look at it, an insane reaction. If you actually want to assume you took off with a sane person, the most correct way of seeing this, from the way I see it; is that the "distress of the issue" drove her to an insane reaction.

 

I am starting to get the feeling that neither understand each others arguments.

 

I understand where you're coming from, and hence I took the time to answer this thoroughly.

 

 

You need to cam down first of all. I am once again going to say that what I said about "Less idiots in the world" was not my honest opinion and had no relation to my overall argument.

 

Noted, didn't even see that anyway.

 

This movement is stupid, the idea was stupid, the people who participate in it are stupid in my honest opinion, then again that is just me being blunt I guess. If the parents will not fix the problem themselves then no matter what happens sh*t like this will happen again.

 

So hey, suddenly they do need outside help! Funny that you'd mention it!

 

I didn't twist anything, I misread what she wrote and was addressing it in case I was right, I was wrong. I didn't twist anything, did you read the part where I wrote "If that is what you mean". I didn't claim that was her opinion in any way.

 

Nothing to argue against here, you misread. End of story.

 

Call me whatever you want I really don't care, I simply addressed my opinion that what she has done, she was perfectly in sound mind and did not have a clinical mental illness (again, diagnosed by those therapists that you don't trust), that was it. You all took that, got offended and then blasted me with caps lock in order to make me change my ways which isn't working. You think I don't care about this because of one comment that was not intended to mean anything. You think I don't care because I don't think there is something wrong with her in the head? You think I don't care because I called her stupid? No, that was me being blunt.

 

See, these things you're saying. You're saying you had no ill intent all along and that you actually do care, and that's fine. But you're also saying that you were being blunt and made a rude comment for the hell of it. Those things, I think, are considered insensitive, even if you do care in the end...

 

All we need is someone to go to her and explain to her why what she is doing is wrong and help ease the process of her obsession and not send her to a mental institution or get her a therapist.

 

"Get help" doesn't necessarily mean professional help, I think you also misunderstood that bit.

 

EDIT: Goddamn quotes. I'll just bold what you said instead.