~British Soul~ Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [center]So... Breakthrough Skill got a rarity bump[/center] [center][img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/5/52/BreakthroughSkill-CBLZ-EN-OP.jpg[/img][/center] [center][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target"]Target[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Monster"]Effect Monster[/url] your opponent [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controls[/url]; [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Negate"]negate[/url] the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]effects[/url] of that opponent's face-up [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card"]monster[/url], until the end of this [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url]. During your turn, except the turn this card was [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send"]sent[/url] to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url]: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Banish"]banish[/url] this card from your Graveyard to target 1 face-up Effect Monster your opponent controls; negate that target's effects until the end of this turn.[/center] [center]Discuss.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Pretty sure everyone saw it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 All the random good tech cards get the Ultea Rare bump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 This card deserves the rarety bump. It's good and personally my favorite of the 3 main effect negators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 maybe it's just me, but I consider super -> ultra a rarity drop however now I'm mad because this means there's a chance I'll get this as an ultimate and ultimates are gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 What's so bad about ultis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 ultis are disgusting and ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 A lot of Ultis these days look pretty bad, yeah. But I'm satisfied with this being an Ultra. That means it's not a Secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1357916632' post='6118048'] ultis are disgusting and ugly [/quote] Silverwind looks good as an ulti. OT: More zenmaines hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Going to be a chase card because of this I think, I believe it has staple potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Fiendish Chain and Veiler are both better, so meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 its better than chain but worse than veiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Can't play Veiler in Bubblebeat/DW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Kettleblack' timestamp='1357921808' post='6118098'] Can't play Veiler in Bubblebeat/DW. [/quote] You [i]could[/i] play Veiler in Bubblebeat. I'd advise against it, but still it's not completely irrational as a side card. However, I think this and Chain are both equally viable in Bubblebeat, since the Deck doesn't run Gorz and doesn't have to worry about a full field like that. Where I think this really shines is Dino/Macro Rabbit, Mermails, and more specifically Constellars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 You can't play Veiler at all in Bubblebeat, don't be ridiculous. Also this seems like the best maindeck choice in Fissure Rabbit, and decks that play Treacherous Trap Hole as it's not a trap in grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Zero*' timestamp='1357921680' post='6118097'] its better than chain but worse than veiler [/quote] wait what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1357923336' post='6118117'] wait what [/quote] Out of the three negation cards, it's better than Chain but not as good as Veiler due to Veiler being a hand-trap and whatnot. Veiler also follows and stops Rabbit, which this does not. @KB, for some reason I thought we were talking about HERO Beat, please forgive my stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Zero*' timestamp='1357923712' post='6118123'] Out of the three negation cards, it's better than Chain but not as good as Veiler due to Veiler being a hand-trap and whatnot. Veiler also follows and stops Rabbit, which this does not. @KB, for some reason I thought we were talking about HERO Beat, please forgive my stupidity. [/quote] But Chain is so much better than this because it stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1357923924' post='6118127'] But Chain is so much better than this because it stays. [/quote] I get that, but this has two uses, [i]and[/i] it's chainable. If they MST your Chain, you're out a card, but with this, you can still re-use it and make them waste it. Idk, honestly we can speculate and whatnot but until it's actually released and we see how well it does in testing there's no way to know which one is more effective, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357921146' post='6118088'] Fiendish Chain and Veiler are both better, so meh. [/quote] [quote name='Zero*' timestamp='1357921680' post='6118097'] its better than chain but worse than veiler [/quote] Stop being so close-minded. Veiler, Chain, and this are all better in different decks. Decks that like maintaining hand-advantage, or decks that don't set a whole lot use Veiler better. Decks that prefer/need field setup like Chain. Decks that are more stun/control oriented and like to set lots of backrow would get better use out of this card, because [i]it's a control card.[/i] It's second use makes it more control-based than Veiler or Chain. Veiler is more versatile, Chain halts attacks, and this has a double-use. They're all different cards with different places in the game, serving the same purpose, just in the most optimal way for some decks rather than others. [quote name='Zero*' timestamp='1357923712' post='6118123'] Veiler also follows and stops Rabbit, which this does not. [/quote] This negates effects that both [i]activate[/i] and apply on the field. This [i]does[/i]follow effects that resolve off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Examples: Bubble/HERO Beat could use Fiendish Chain OR This over Veiler. It aids them more. Fire Fists could use This over Fiendish Chain AND Veiler because they need the other space for their Fire Formation Spell/Traps. Chaos Dragons could use Veiler over This AND Chain because it aids in Chaos Set-up, although the deck could also run the other 2 as well. It just depends on what you want to do, what you can achieve, and then the other bonuses each individual card gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Skill Drain, guys? Most HERO variants would rather run that (even Bubblebeat) since it's continuous and doesn't only work on 1 monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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