Blake Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080601184843/yugioh/images/thumb/f/fc/ChainMaterial-PTDN-EN-SP-1E.png/300px-ChainMaterial-PTDN-EN-SP-1E.png[/img][/center] [center]Ban Pls[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Has anyone ever tried running this in gem-knights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 The Decks that can actually run this, on the other hand, are inconsistent at best, and aren't worthy of tier position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Since the day I knew of this card's existance I've been insisting on its banning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 It's a badly design card....where decks must be bad to be good...It's own structure and it's own uses pretty much kill its consistency as f***.... So...I have absolutely no idea whether this should be banned or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 To be honest, this card shouldn't have been made in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 There really isn't a need, my reasons for saying this are the same as Devil's Advocate. There's plenty of cards that need banning before this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Solely used to promote OTKs. Needs to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Now that I think about it, Yubel was the first to use this card, when s/he attempted to create the Super Fusion God in order to fuse the 12 dimensions. If you look at it from a certain perspective... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... yeah, Yubel tried to do an OTK with this, so in retrospect, this was originally created for OTKs. ... huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Kingdom Xathers' timestamp='1358199970' post='6120911'] so in retrospect, this was originally created for OTKs. ... huh. [/quote] So were [i]every single one of Zane's cards.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Card would be fine if it weren't for Fusion Gate. Fusion Gate is what makes this card broken. Card would probably be really meh in Gem-Knights because it banishes the Fusion Materials, meaning you wont be able to keep re-using Gem-Knight Fusion unless you already had several Gem-Knights in Grave. And since it prevents you from attacking, you won't be able to make use of most of the Gem-Knight effects, unless you're trying to Xyz Summon, which definitely wouldnt justify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Blaze Phoenix, while a terrible example to use, is basically the end result of what can come from this card's power, combined with Fusion Gate. Although, Fusion Gate is slow and unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judαs Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Only good for Blaze Fenix OTK, nothing else. That OTK isn't even that great anyway, because Chain Material is a trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [img]http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/4/blazefenixtheburningbom.png[/img] /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1358216663' post='6121177'] [img]http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/4/blazefenixtheburningbom.png[/img] /thread [/quote] To be fair to the poor card, the art is pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Judas' timestamp='1358216528' post='6121173'] Only good for Blaze Fenix OTK, nothing else. That OTK isn't even that great anyway, because Chain Material is a trap [/quote] This is also used in Electrum OTK. That OTK isn't even that great anyway, because Chain Material is a trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1358216833' post='6121183'] This is also used in Electrum OTK. [/quote] Which is basically Blaze Phoenix or Gustaph Max, with Blaze Phoenix being better because you don't need 3 Electrums to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Made a bet with some friends once that I could name 20 different OTK loops with this thing. I won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1358216833' post='6121183'] This is also used in Electrum OTK. That OTK isn't even that great anyway, because Chain Material is a trap. [/quote] [quote name='Miror~' timestamp='1358217129' post='6121186'] Which is basically Blaze Phoenix or Gustaph Max, with Blaze Phoenix being better because you don't need 3 Electrums to use. [/quote]You're both wrong. It's bad because it loses to anything that can stop Electrum from activating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1358217447' post='6121189'] You're both wrong. It's bad because it loses to anything that can stop Electrum from activating. [/quote] Depends on how many copies of each of the materials you run (and if its Skill Drain or not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 There's also Worm Exodia or w/e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Miror~' timestamp='1358217770' post='6121191'] Depends on how many copies of each of the materials you run (and if its Skill Drain or not) [/quote]I don't think you understand. If the 3rd Electrum doesn't go off, you lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1358217825' post='6121193'] I don't think you understand. If the 3rd Electrum doesn't go off, you lose. [/quote] The thing is you don't need 3 Electrums in Blaze Phoenix ._. It takes 2 Veilers to fully stop Phoenix OTK, assuming you run 2 sets of materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 We were talking about why Gustaph's Electrum OTK is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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