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[center]Lv 6[/center]
[center]FIRE/Winged Beast[/center]
[center]ATK2200 / DEF 300[/center]
[center]This face-up card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects.[/center]
[center]Once per turn, during either player's turn : You can send 1 FIRE monster, except this card from your hand or your side of the field to the Graveyard; this card cannot be destroyed by card effects during this turn.[/center]

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[quote name='Zeppeli Gyro Supreme' timestamp='1358282215' post='6121844']
CHIMERICA!

Not all that impressive, really. I mean, effect immunity is great, and of course it can't be targeted, but it can still be run over really easy, and you want it for an Xyz more than anything anyways.
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Except Haze Beasts only Xyz when they need to, and rely on beating the opponent down with their monsters more than Xyzing.

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[quote name='Zeppeli Gyro Supreme' timestamp='1358282528' post='6121857']
What deck are you playing exactly?
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Haze Beasts. Y'know, the kind that doesn't use shitty Goka in it because a single card in the deck benefits from it.

EvenPeryton shouldn't just be make an Xyz move on, unless you need to use an Xyz to get over something.

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[quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1358282793' post='6121863']
Haze Beasts are all about spamming 6s though...
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[b]You can Normal Summon this card without Tributing, but its original ATK becomes 1000. This face-up card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "Haze" card from your Deck to your hand.[/b]

This is the center of the deck that you generally want to pull as many of it as possible from your deck with Peryton. Mind telling me why I'd ever want to overlay this card without a second thought instead of keeping 2 2000 beaters that float, unless I need to get over a threat at that moment?

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What I'm saying is that there's no way in heck you're going to actually survive on beatsticking with a maximum of 2100 (I guess 2200 now) ATK. Turn 1 maybe, but unless you're against a bad stun deck you're going down the turn after that. The Xyz is supposed to be what makes your field stick and stops your opponent from going HAM and winning. If you win by beatdown then your opponent sucks.

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[quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1358283126' post='6121873']
[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121120101822/yugioh/images/thumb/d/d6/HazeBeastCerberus-CBLZ-JP-C.png/300px-HazeBeastCerberus-CBLZ-JP-C.png[/img]

[b]You can Normal Summon this card without Tributing, but its original ATK becomes 1000. This face-up card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "Haze" card from your Deck to your hand.[/b]

This is the center of the deck that you generally want to pull as many of it as possible from your deck with Peryton. Mind telling me why I'd ever want to overlay this card without a second thought instead of keeping 2 2000 beaters that float, unless I need to get over a threat at that moment?
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You wouldn't. But you would overlay pretty much everything else in there without a second though.

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[quote name='Zeppeli Gyro Supreme' timestamp='1358283207' post='6121877']
What I'm saying is that there's no way in heck you're going to actually survive on beatsticking with a maximum of 2100 (I guess 2200 now) ATK. Turn 1 maybe, but unless you're against a bad stun deck you're going down the turn after that. The Xyz is supposed to be what makes your field stick and stops your opponent from going HAM and winning. If you win by beatdown then your opponent sucks.
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I've won multiple games with using the Haze Beasts as beaters and Xyzing only to remove a threat/ensure game with Bounzer. Beaters can win games.


[quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1358283326' post='6121881']
You wouldn't. But you would overlay pretty much everything else in there without a second though.
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No, you wouldn't. You have beaters, you shouldn't give up two 1900-2300 beaters unless your opponent has a threat bigger than that, or after you swing to go into Ptolemys.


[quote name='Agro' timestamp='1358283444' post='6121883']
I wouldn't overlay Peryton without a second thought. And maybe 20 other thoughts.
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Or Spinx. Or any of the others in the deck.

You shouldn't just Xyz because you can, that's a terrible idea.

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[quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1358283854' post='6121897']
And yet when I said before that you should just be playing Haze Beat and only Xyz when absolutely necessary, I got called an idiot. Man, screw you guys.

>300 DEF
I have never seen anything more hilarious since the Seal of Orichalcos got printed.
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,... uh, I said that from the start. The only thing we disagreed on was using Goka. I never called you an idiot for anything but Goka, and IDK if I even CALLED you an idiot then. Go look ._.

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