Northern Sage Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Zombie/Xyz/Effect 2 Level 8 DARK monsters Must be Xyz Summoned, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyardto target 1 face-up card your opponent controls; change this card toDefense Position, and if you do, negate that face-up card's effect until the End Phase. (The english proxy on the wiki had a piece cut off). Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Skill Drain Dark Worlds... But yeah, this card is funny. I'm expecting Armz in here soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Only 2 Decks can bring this thing out D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Gee DS, you sure love to make topics dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Apparently it can neg mirror force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Dark Creator summons Superbia summons Zerato. Blow stuff with Zerato and then use it and one of the others for this. Or you could use Darklon in Dragon Rulers. It's not like you use your normal summon for a lot of stuff anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Killing Quasar with this is tremendously satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Being DARK specific is probably balancing because it has 4500 ATK essentially out of nowhere. The effect is interesting, because it can chain to cards being activated, so it can even negate the Spell/Trap the opponent just activated. The problem is you have to detach 1, send 1 from hand, and switch to its mere 1000 DEF for the rest of the turn. It can be nice to dodge Traps like Mirror Force and so on, but it's very costly and being so specific makes it harder to use. Gimmick Puppets can probably use this more when the new support is released, since they're all DARK, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Being DARK specific is probably balancing because it has 4500 ATK essentially out of nowhere. The effect is interesting, because it can chain to cards being activated, so it can even negate the Spell/Trap the opponent just activated. The problem is you have to detach 1, send 1 from hand, and switch to its mere 1000 DEF for the rest of the turn. It can be nice to dodge Traps like Mirror Force and so on, but it's very costly and being so specific makes it harder to use. Gimmick Puppets can probably use this more when the new support is released, since they're all DARK, if I remember correctly. That's correct. It really does support them in actuality, considering that they want to be in the Grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 actually gimmick puppets cant use it well cuz only nightmare is dark. the rest of the new ones are earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 actually gimmick puppets cant use it well cuz only nightmare is dark. the rest of the new ones are earth. Huh, you're right. Darn... Edit: Well, not perfectly true. Twilight Joker, Scissor, and Nightmare are Dark. Gear Changer and Bomb Egg are Earth. Granted, Egg is the one that becomes Level 8, but Joker still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Oh really? I havn't seen them, but all the ones I used in my old build were Dark, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Huh, you're right. Darn... Edit: Well, not perfectly true. Twilight Joker, Scissor, and Nightmare are Dark. Gear Changer and Bomb Egg are Earth. Granted, Egg is the one that becomes Level 8, but Joker still works. scissor isnt becoming level 8 on its own and qalaxy queen's light is suboptimal as heck. twilight joker DOES work but it seems rare to be able to keep it out long enough. you also have gearspring spirit but considering you cant use necro doll at all (or nightmare if special summoned by its effect) its generally not worth the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'm expecting Armz in here soon enough...I was gone all day.But yea, Nightmare COULD make this hilariously playable, if you get your 2 copies to survive after using Nightmare's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I was gone all day. But yea, Nightmare COULD make this hilariously playable, if you get your 2 copies to survive after using Nightmare's effect. You know, it's not really all that hard to get this out. I mean, it's only a 2-mat. Mange Doll + Gearspring is quite easy to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 You know, it's not really all that hard to get this out. I mean, it's only a 2-mat. Mange Doll + Gearspring is quite easy to pull off. its not worth the space when those are your ONLY viable materials, when you can just go for any other rank 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 its not worth the space when those are your ONLY viable materials, when you can just go for any other rank 8. It's fun to get out a 4500 attacker though D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 It's fun to get out a 4500 attacker though D: garbage eyes is a 4k without the ludicrous drawbacks, and also wont make gearspring a dead draw if it dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 You know, it's not really all that hard to get this out. I mean, it's only a 2-mat. Mange Doll + Gearspring is quite easy to pull off.Magne is more live with the new Gimmick Puppets anyway.Plus, Twilight Joker could lead to some shenanigans if you time it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 As said, I don't know the new cards, and I havn't played around with Trashy yet, though it does seem like the broken better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 You guys forgetting Dreary Doll is also a thing? This could easily be made using her and Magne Doll. Oh yeah, her restriction. Well, Nightmare and Magne Dool could be used, but, yeah... you would be better off with the GP Xyz or Garbage-Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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