vla1ne Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Why is the economy still bad (if you disagree, try to find a job and then get back to me) after 5 years of Obama, when others in the past have fixed it in less then a presidential term? I may never convice you of the truth, but history will know who is right. Now if you'll excuse me I have some cards to make. Filibuster. I did say to look it up. I hope history shows all of the facts, what happened, and the reasons why. because as long as it does, people will know enough to make decisions regardless of what's right of wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Just end parties and elect officials based on their personal views, please... If you "ended parties" you'd have people who don't call themselves "parties" but just so happen to have the political influence necessary to warp candidates' "personal views" as per their interests. Parties literally can't stop and won't stop. [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco[/video] Well, at least they get a paid vacation out of this. Our politicians deserve a break from all these months of...doing...something? Well, all that matters is that we Americans don't matter, the government exists so a chosen few can fill theirs, and big business' pockets, and we need to shut up and vote for them come election time. I don't know why people think the government exists for their benefit. Some people are just selfish, I guess. Similarly, if "the government" didn't exist you'd have people who don't call themselves "the government" but just so happen to govern. This is what "libertarians" never seem able to process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Why is the economy still bad (if you disagree, try to find a job and then get back to me) after 5 years of Obama, when others in the past have fixed it in less then a presidential term? I may never convice you of the truth, but history will know who is right. Now if you'll excuse me I have some cards to make. The economy will always be bad in some way. And it will always be hard to find a job. It's not up to the government whether or not you get hired by the local Subway. Just end parties and elect officials based on their personal views, please... Parties are made based off of a collective group of individuals who share certain parts of personal ideologies. Even if some of those views are not really what the country needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy the First Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 We should not have a bigger government, but a smaller one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Before the USA gets to the matter of a bigger or smaller government it needs to create a less corrupt one. How many Senators and Congressmen are bankrolled by big business? How many politicians work for the media and vice-versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy the First Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Before the USA gets to the matter of a bigger or smaller government it needs to create a less corrupt one. How many Senators and Congressmen are bankrolled by big business? How many politicians work for the media and vice-versa? True, but at the same time if the government is smaller then there will be less corrupt Senators and Congressmen in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 True, but at the same time if the government is smaller then there will be less corrupt Senators and Congressmen in it. That doesn't really solve the problem though. It's easier to corrupt 50 people that it is to corrupt 100, it costs less, you gain more power per person corrupted, and majorities are easier to maintain once you corrupt the key officials. Smaller governments are just a bigger target for businesses to throw their power at. the problem Is the people in government that allow themselves to be corrupted. there will more than likely always be corrupt officials, in any level of government, but what we should be aiming for is helping the people who are harder to corrupt, or wont be corrupted at all, get into government. so that the government as a whole is harder to corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 The whole problem with the government is that everyone is looking after their own agendas and big businesses can influence politicians too easily by funding their reelection campaigns. There are sometimes candidates on ballots who no one has ever heard of, the reason being that they don't have any way to advertise that they are running for office. Ideally, what should be done is outlaw third party funding for election campaigns, but that won't happen because nobody would ever elect these people again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowlicker Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Well. Guess I'll go back to jackin' off and eating pasta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 The whole problem with the government is that everyone is looking after their own agendas and big businesses can influence politicians too easily by funding their reelection campaigns. There are sometimes candidates on ballots who no one has ever heard of, the reason being that they don't have any way to advertise that they are running for office. Ideally, what should be done is outlaw third party funding for election campaigns, but that won't happen because nobody would ever elect these people again. I don't think it's fair to rule out third party funding entirely, a cap would suffice. This prevents interest groups like charities or labour unions from having any political nous. Lobbying should not be illegal, too.Well.Guess I'll go back to eating pasta. Your honesty, combined with your completely politically incorrect name is absolutely admirable and made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Felt this would be relevant I guess. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/senate-deal_n_4107578.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Did it really have to be as hard as all this? Oh well, it's all over now, and everything can be forgiven and archived. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Remember, Boehner was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He had both moderate Republicans and Tea Party Republicans to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I wonder if civil war will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I wonder if civil war will happen. That or the Republican party splits in two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 That or the Republican party splits in two. Wouldn't that mean a third party would become official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Wouldn't that mean a third party would become official? Exactly, and it has happened before. Remember the Progressive (Bull Moose) Party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Exactly, and it has happened before. Remember the Progressive (Bull Moose) Party? Nope but I'm not really into politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912) The direct result in the 1912 election was that the Republican vote was split between Roosevelt and Taft, which allowed Wilson to take the presidency with a unified Democrat vote. Lovely, ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm glad they've sorted it out temporarily. We always remember what happens when the US sneezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~RoBoTiClOvEr~ Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Good thing it was solved temporarily. Next time we vote for Congressman, let's pick people who won't argue constantly like children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey, remember that time when this was actually important? Cuz I can't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~RoBoTiClOvEr~ Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 I check the news on the shutdown everyday. I think I would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Huh. I, for one, would like to welcome tyranny across our country with open arms so that there aren't any more stupid people running this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Huh. I, for one, would like to welcome tyranny across our country with open arms so that there aren't any more stupid people running this country. What if the tyrant was an idiot though? or worse, what if he was actually a smart tyrant? As far as our government goes, many of them are growing dumber by the day, but a healthy dose of facts and (apparently un)common sense injected into the voting populace would fix that real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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