Sora1499 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 In my opinion, he is the most badass of the Egyptian Gods. The thing LOOKS fuckin scary, and he really is: veil of protection when he's summoned, can't be targeted (no bear, no bueno), and can nuke the field if you tribute 2 little guys. Discuss his applications, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Tributing 2 for so little of a nuke is worthless, in my opinion. If it destroyed all cards, it would definitely be a force to be reckoned with. And there's really no comparison on the Egyptian Gods; Slifer is a waste of cardboard and Mega Ultra Chicken gets its name for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Sliver isn't awful though... Locking out little guys on a potentially huge body ain't bad. What they did with Ra was just disgusting though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Obelisk is the most consistent one. It's the only of the 3 with a non-targeting effect, and it has a guaranteed 4000 ATK, whereas Slifer and Ra have variable values. Ra's nerf made it beyond worthless. Slifer is awesome, but ultimately inferior to Obelisk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 As far as monsters go, Obelisk is one of the best generic boss monsters out there, 4000 ATK, immune to targeting, and a potential raigeki if you have 2 monsters to spare, the thing is amazing. The other 2 gods can't match him in usefulness. Without target protection, Slifer is too vulnerable to everything, if he'd gotten that much he could have been a worthy contender for top god, but what they did to Ra just makes me sad, a potentially broken card being reduced to one of the worst boss monster cards ever to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Obelisk is the most consistent one. It's the only of the 3 with a non-targeting effect, and it has a guaranteed 4000 ATK, whereas Slifer and Ra have variable values. Ra's nerf made it beyond worthless. Slifer is awesome, but ultimately inferior to Obelisk. Remind me again why they went so heavy-handed on them again? Card was a game-decider in Ruler mirrors last format, now he's really not worth the effort for most decks. Powerful though he is, Plasma is better value for 3 tributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Just had a crazy for fun idea, build a mecha phantom beast deck teching this in. Using the ones that can easily make tokens, as I just checked[they don't have the cannot be used for tribute summon clause] allowing for easy tributes to summon/activate his rageki. Note this is not an idea for competitive play, just completely casual and for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Jeweled Red Dragon Archfiend keeps him in check. That might be a deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Soooooo are these BP Gods any cheaper now? (seriously, I only bought a single booster later down the road out of who knows, but I would have probably gotten a box if these were more common to pull. Talking of discouragement) It's funny how it's an anti-target card when in the manga/anime it was the opposite. Card Effects in general that caused it to move away from the field (destroy, to Gravey, banish, to hand, etc) would not affect it. Card Effects that switched control of it didn't affect it. Some weird card Yugi used that decreased it's ATK did affect him though. It leads me to conclude that the most accurate way to portray the show's Obelisk would be that it is unaffected by effects that would move it from the Monster Card Zone it is currently at. Anything else he became unaffected by it during the End Phase and onward. I guess that'd make Effect Veiler and Fiendish Chain hurt it really badly, which hurts my fan inside, but oh well. OT: The card is strong and fair. The game has outgrown it's power. It runs on the idea that you'll be Tributing something like Shield Warrior, Sangan, some Hyeratic, etc. under a deck mechanic of a big center giant and a bunch of support critters to feed it's power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 [quote name="DeathSDelano" post="6284728" timestamp="1381206022"]Just had a crazy for fun idea, build a mecha phantom beast deck teching this in. Using the ones that can easily make tokens, as I just checked[they don't have the cannot be used for tribute summon clause] allowing for easy tributes to summon/activate his rageki. Note this is not an idea for competitive play, just completely casual and for fun.[/quote] Black Garden MPBs can probably poop this out with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Remind me again why they went so heavy-handed on them again? Because anime Ra was broken as hell, and any attempts to replicate its effects in a balanced way still had it being ridiculously powerful. In video games that let you use it, if Ra could be SSed by any means AND could pay LP at the moment of Summoning, it became a potential OTK on the spot. So...they removed the ability to SS it. If Ra had ATK for its Tributes, it'd be potentially broken, by Tributing easily Summoned monsters with solid ATK. It could easily net between 4000 - 9000 without really trying. Therefore...they didn't give it anything like that. If they made it immune to targeting, and someone actually had a plethora of LP, it'd be a nigh-unstoppable OTK machine running on the LP of the wielder. So they didn't give it targeting immunity. But because they did ALL of those things, it's utter crap that can't be SSed, requires 3 Tributes, has 0 ATK at time of Summoning unless you reduce your LP dangerously low, and has no protection whatsoever. As for Slifer, it's actually considered awesome because it wasn't really nerfed. It gets 1000x the cards in your hand, weakens Summoned monsters by 2000, killing them if their ATK becomes 0, and CAN be SSed at the cost of sending it to the Graveyard during the End Phase, same as Obelisk and faithful to the anime. They just didn't give it the non-targeting effect, which makes sense because with the ability to SS it on a whim, and its ATK based on your current handsize, certain Decks could probably drop a 8000+ monster for a single turn and have it be nigh-unstoppable. Obelisk wasn't nerfed much BECAUSE of its consistent ATK value of 4000, which nearly all boss monsters in the anime have in GX and 5Ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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